danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I don’t think it was being held up as anything to aspire to, but you’d need to ask the person who posted it.
The amount and pace of migration to the UK is unprecedented
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TopCat
Putin fanboy
Your style seems familiar.
bimble
floofy
Is this a veiled accusation of being a banned returner?
First few weeks I was on here I got that all the time. It’s quite weird and a bit sad.
That was the point.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I think Firky doth protest too much.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Luxembourg's position in those charts is at first sight impressive but I'm fairly confident London would easily beat it by miles if you drew a Luxembourg sized circle around the city and defined any Londoners originally from outside the circle as being from a different nation.
It is fucking weird. No, I haven't been here before. On the one hand, I'm told that I'm so fucking unusual as to be completely unbelievable, yet the next remark is that I'm just like someone else. It can't be both can it. If I had lower self esteem, I might feel gaslit by it.
I've already got some absolute sad case that follows me between here and a soap forum I use when EastEnders is good. She (or he) I think of as being a bit like a flasher in the park - I'm blissfully oblivious to their existence until they whip it out, and it's mildly irritating when they do so, I'd prefer they just left me alone, but ultimately it's just pathetic - and maybe quietly heartbreaking, for them.
Anyway. I checked into GBNews tonight, for my sins, and they're very tightly going for all this - 'great replacement' related chat , boats, pronatalism - (a positive feature on a North Korean baby boom no less), boats, 'Superwoman Suella', boats, grooming gangs, boats, and Meghan Markle.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yep. Need to be very careful when comparing areas of very different sizes and make-up. And of course, fixating only on nation states as the units of interest isn't always helpful.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Has London been destabilised?
Thank you Edie, that's genuinely sweet. You don't need to back me because you'll probably draw flak to yourself, but it's much appreciated as a gesture nevertheless.Tanya’s style seems refreshingly direct and unashamed and I’m enjoying it
Yes, the overlapping reign of BJ and Dick of the Yard left quite a mess. We've been sliding about in spaff ever since.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Or perhaps even ever.
The exciting North Korean baby boom I referred to in my post above was in the context of the U.K. census results being ready for release. Lots of scary charts showing top heavy demographics, and actual speculation as to whether English people would begin reproducing at 'replacement rate' or whether 'Winifred' would actually have to have her arse wiped by rapidly breeding treasure hunters rushing in by the boatload.
This everywoman example of a poor native pensioner left to the ravaging foreign hordes was actually named 'Winifred'.
Concern that South Korea is 'dying', or possibly 'DYING'. The scary age charts shown in panic weren't of the U.K. at all. Those relating to this country are to be released this week apparently - then the cycle began again. Boats, grooming, natives unable to copulate, 'Superwoman Suella', boats, Meghan Markle, and INVASIONS of various types coming up on 'Superstar Panel', including someone from The Sun. I don't know what the panel concluded, but it was shaping up to a migration heavy schedule. Should still be going if anyone has the stomach for it. Should make a good tie in with this dedicated thread.
This everywoman example of a poor native pensioner left to the ravaging foreign hordes was actually named 'Winifred'.
Concern that South Korea is 'dying', or possibly 'DYING'. The scary age charts shown in panic weren't of the U.K. at all. Those relating to this country are to be released this week apparently - then the cycle began again. Boats, grooming, natives unable to copulate, 'Superwoman Suella', boats, Meghan Markle, and INVASIONS of various types coming up on 'Superstar Panel', including someone from The Sun. I don't know what the panel concluded, but it was shaping up to a migration heavy schedule. Should still be going if anyone has the stomach for it. Should make a good tie in with this dedicated thread.
I’ll be honest Tanya, the accusations of banned returnee are always totally weird to me, and anyway I couldn’t gaf if you were. I’m here for the quality posts and that’s it.
I can't work out why someone would want to return to somewhere they'd been banned from. It would be a bit like banging on the doors of a bar you'd just been asked to leave, while all the other customers stared out at your desperation. Not that I've ever done that - I mean the 'banging on the doors asking to be let back in' part.
Actually, the last time it happened to me I was on a little bit of an informal group date after a Friday after work impromptu when a bouncer appeared in the corridor outside the loo and shouted that I was soliciting from the premises - which I wasn't. So I left with as much dignity as I could muster - not a lot, but enough to simply leave!
It (returning to banned premises like some unloved doubly incontinent old dog perhaps) is obviously one of those accusations that reveals more about the behaviour type of the accuser than the accused.
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Even more weirdly, some people do try to return repeatedly. Mental health problems or mischief or both, who knows. I don’t care tbh. Thread should get back on track as it was interesting.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
From my privileged point of view: no.
From the point of view of some other londoners, who perhaps were born here, maybe they think so, and I wouldn't want to write off how things look from where they are, even if I might disagree with them about what the main causes of certain problems are.
From the point of view of online commenters under a news story just yesterday, about a shooting we had here in Brixton, apparently London is entirely destabilised and entirely lawless, thanks largely to mayor Kahn, but I don't really care what those particular idiots think because I doubt any of them live here or have any real idea of what London is like.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
And isn't this the point, more often than not. Various surveys done after the Brexit vote found a distinct pattern: people who didn't know any immigrants were the most concerned about immigration. Anti-immigrant feeling was often strongest in areas with very few immigrants. Immigrants are a convenient scapegoat, but they're easier to demonise while they are distinctly the 'other', over there.
Well, its a rare person who hasn't got a few of those to some extent. But yes, quite agree, so back on topic...
Have a little look at KGBNews offerings tonight. It's really astounding to see how they'd edited their poison throughout the schedule in such a relentless way. Yes, they're a bad joke, but if that's the groove they've settled into, they're not that useless. Slickly chimed precisely with the worst impulses of this government and the darkest conspiracies around. It was actually frightening tonight - I'd say more so than some US equivalents because of how they have to duck and dive a bit more around the field.
You could see the edges. I wondered if they'd perhaps gone really OTT tonight just because the whole structure of the country seems to have turned even crazier even quicker of late. I don't watch it regularly, so it seemed like a serious step up from the shite they'd played around with last year. Maybe it's been a gradual thing, but I was shocked. It was frightening stuff.
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I think it's gone off the boil, but not because of immigration. It feels like the whole country has gone very badly wrong, and it's speeding up. I've actually wondered whether this is what the disintegration of other political entities has felt like to its citizens.
I grew up in Soho, and come from a long line of Londoners on my fathers side, so I do feel qualified to remark on London life. I've no idea about any shooting in Brixton, and no idea why that would cause anything much more than local commentary.
I hate to be pedantic, but Kahn is a Jewish name (it's Cohen, with a couple of letters changed). Khan is the man you mean.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Is this really a question or some sort of theatrical or virtue-signalling stance?
None of those three? It seemed like sarcasm to me.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I know, but I'm sure it's a little more complicated than that, because immigration tends to happen mostly to places that already have some history of it (London being the prime example). And those who don't really want to live in those places can, to a limited extent, choose instead to live in the many parts of the UK where there are very low immigrant populations.
In some hypothetical scenario where all restrictions were lifted, what would happen? We don't know of course. We don't know if huge numbers would head for the UK. If they did, we don't know if they would mainly end up in places like London or distributed throughout the country, including lots of places with virtually no history of anything on that scale. In the latter case, it seems highly plausible to me that it could indeed be somewhat "destabilising" with people taking all sorts of actions resulting from fear, irrational or otherwise. You can of course argue that that's just tough luck for the folk already living in those places - they have no right to have it for themselves or to expect things not to change suddenly. I might even argue that myself.... but wouldn't deny the possibility that some ugly things might happen along the way.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Knowing danny, I'm sure it was really a question. And a valid one, imo. It's not like he hasn't elucidated in other posts on the problems there are with that kind of question. Does the destabilisation come from a collapsing, overloaded infrastructure or environment, or is the destabilisation referred to the kind that results not from immigration directly but from the stirring up of anti-immigrant feeling? I think there's an important distinction to be made there.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Yeah, I wasn’t expecting a blatantly playing thick question from danny, but seems like
we’re agreed on that being exactly what it was.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
It was a question. I could have said “define destabilisation”. But that’s just another way of saying “what are you asking?”
danny la rouge
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Which is why it’s important to find out what people think the word means when they ask if I agree it’s happened, or could happen, or at what point it might happen.
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