Raheem
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Perhaps we are living through one.
The 2024 UK General Election - news, speculation and updates
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Paul Kegan
The Green Party vote is partly the same base as the Liberal Democrats.
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
The Greens also got the Nimby anti housing vote in the council seats around Herts and Bucks.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
Andrew Rawnsley:
www.theguardian.com
Conservative Cabinet ministers, look away now: your ‘Portillo moment’ could be on the cards | Andrew Rawnsley
Two mega-polls suggest that the Tories are heading for a defeat more catastrophic than they experienced in 1997. What if they’re right?
teqniq
DisMembered
This by Richard Murphy does not paint a rosy picture. One can buy only hope he is wrong, however....
We face a Labour meltdown after the election
I seriously wonder how long Labour has got before it has no choice but to wake up and smell the coffee. It would be incredibly easy for Starmer, Reeves and Streeting to be sitting very smugly at present thinking that the election is sewn up and that their future in government...
www.taxresearch.org.uk
Paints a depressingly plausible picture.This by Richard Murphy does not paint a rosy picture. One can buy only hope he is wrong, however....
We face a Labour meltdown after the election
I seriously wonder how long Labour has got before it has no choice but to wake up and smell the coffee. It would be incredibly easy for Starmer, Reeves and Streeting to be sitting very smugly at present thinking that the election is sewn up and that their future in government...www.taxresearch.org.uk
People I know who defend Labour insist that Labour have a plan but don't want the Tories to steal their ideas, but as the article points out things that Streeting has said and Reeves has done suggests otherwise.
I think it will very quickly be apparent that its a disastrous government. All they'd really have to do is get the NHS properly funded again and give people a sense that they are fixing things and they'd be pretty much guaranteed a second term, but I doubt they will manage even that.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
...and yet...
www.theguardian.com
The Grauniad has been doing some good reporting on electoral issues lately. There was a good report yesterday from Sheffield Hallam, where they captured very accurately people turning to Labour with little or no enthusiasm. And the above suggests that whilst numbers may indicate a landslide, differential turnout, the Tory attempted voter suppression through ID laws, and the loss of "urban progressives" over Labour's hard right stance on immigration and Gaza may turn a possible landslide into a narrow win with little room to manoeuvre.
In Scotland, despite murmurings rising against Humza Yousaf and the SNP being exhausted after a generation of political hegemony (that they have squandered), I see no indication that people are turning away from the SNP towards Labour.
Labour may fail to grab target seats as young voters turn away over Gaza and climate
Party figures say decision to tack to right on issues such as immigration could also diminish predicted landslide
The Grauniad has been doing some good reporting on electoral issues lately. There was a good report yesterday from Sheffield Hallam, where they captured very accurately people turning to Labour with little or no enthusiasm. And the above suggests that whilst numbers may indicate a landslide, differential turnout, the Tory attempted voter suppression through ID laws, and the loss of "urban progressives" over Labour's hard right stance on immigration and Gaza may turn a possible landslide into a narrow win with little room to manoeuvre.
In Scotland, despite murmurings rising against Humza Yousaf and the SNP being exhausted after a generation of political hegemony (that they have squandered), I see no indication that people are turning away from the SNP towards Labour.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I think the first half is bollocks, but the second is all too plausible. There are plans and more than enough 'big ideas' for the first parliamentary session. They'll be pretty shit ones, but they'll be there.This by Richard Murphy does not paint a rosy picture. One can buy only hope he is wrong, however....
We face a Labour meltdown after the election
I seriously wonder how long Labour has got before it has no choice but to wake up and smell the coffee. It would be incredibly easy for Starmer, Reeves and Streeting to be sitting very smugly at present thinking that the election is sewn up and that their future in government...www.taxresearch.org.uk
Underpromise and overdeliver, thats the plan for the next but one election.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
This by Richard Murphy does not paint a rosy picture. One can buy only hope he is wrong, however....
We face a Labour meltdown after the election
I seriously wonder how long Labour has got before it has no choice but to wake up and smell the coffee. It would be incredibly easy for Starmer, Reeves and Streeting to be sitting very smugly at present thinking that the election is sewn up and that their future in government...www.taxresearch.org.uk
I agree with most of it, though I think the main thing he has left out is how weak - institutionally, intellectually and in terms of support from the wider public - the faction around Starmer is. I think they might try the first and third of his suggestions when the first crisis hits (and I think it would be weeks rather than months), but they don't have the protection that a base of support would provide to carry either of them through.
Whether that takes Starmer with them or not is another matter, given his flexibility thus far he could consign them to the bin with far greater ease than he did the left. Noone in the party or the wider public is going to go to the mattresses for Reeves or Streeting, especially in a crisis where what they are proposing is so obviously wrong.
BusLanes
Pedestrian
Well guess we will all get a chance to see what American political campaigns are like now.
www.theguardian.com
Political ads could be heading to UK TV screens due to legal loophole
Exclusive: ITV is considering taking paid ads from parties on its streaming platform where ban does not apply
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
That's the last thing we need.Well guess we will all get a chance to see what American political campaigns are like now.
Political ads could be heading to UK TV screens due to legal loophole
Exclusive: ITV is considering taking paid ads from parties on its streaming platform where ban does not apply
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
The Labour ones should be good for a laugh at least.
I wonder how they'll manage to turn, 'expect nothing and you'll never be disappointed' into a catchy jingle.
I wonder how they'll manage to turn, 'expect nothing and you'll never be disappointed' into a catchy jingle.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
If they've got any sense, they just stream images of Johnson, Truss, Hancock et al...
grossWell guess we will all get a chance to see what American political campaigns are like now.
Political ads could be heading to UK TV screens due to legal loophole
Exclusive: ITV is considering taking paid ads from parties on its streaming platform where ban does not apply
I'd advocate boycotting ITV over this, but that'd mean ever watching in the first place.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Itvx forces you to watch the ads. I think you can pay for no ads though.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Didn't know that but i've only ever used itvx on a smart tv. Don't think i can use ad blockers on that but I could be wrong.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Doubt many people still use VHS but some people have those hard drive "videos".
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
I used to use loads of firefox adds on to block cookies, facebook tracking, ads, etc etc. But it was too much hassle with sites not working. Don't bother anymore and mostly use edge or chrome.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I can tune out adverts so well that even though I have a Pi3B sitting here with PiHole already installed on it, I still can't be bothered to set it up.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
We have a Blu-Ray player with a built-in HDD recorder however I still refer to it as a 'video recorder' and indeed still refer to the act of recording something as 'taping' it. Sad I know but I am stuck in my ways,
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
I still use "fast forward" and rewind, and indeed emoji for those terms exist as
and 
. We should be saying "skip ahead" maybe?
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
No we shouldn't if something works fine then there is absolutely no need to change it just because someone gets pedantic about termsI still use "fast forward" and rewind, and indeed emoji for those terms exist as
It is a video recorder. It records video.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Absolutely. I still call my smart phone a “phone box” and call making calls “putting in tuppence”.
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