The 2024 UK General Election - news, speculation and updates

[brogdale]

Next up - the Tory data chief!

Tory data chief Nick Mason investigated for alleged betting on election date

A fourth Conservative is being reportedly investigated for alleged betting on the date of the general election

www.independent.co.uk

As Gove has acknowledged, this has real cut-through, (easy to understand), and seems obviously wrong to voters...

 

[two sheds]

So, did they all individually think "ooooh I can make some cash out of this" and all individually run to the bookies because that wouldn't actually have occurred to me. Or were they all in the same meeting and a cry went up round the room "fuck it lads we're out of here" with a resultant crush at the doorway?

 

[brogdale]

and, seemingly, angry (just like party gate)...

 

[brogdale]

So, did they all individually think "ooooh I can make some cash out of this" and all individually run to the bookies because that wouldn't actually have occurred to me. Or were they all in the same meeting and a cry went up round the room "fuck it lads we're out of here" with a resultant crush at the doorway?

Party and its machine are a self-selecting cohort of utter cunts.

 

[two sheds]

I knew I was missing something :faecepalm:


typo left as was

 

[klang]

Do we know how much Nick Mason put down? Is he another 100-quid-idiot?

 

[brogdale]

Do we know how much Nick Mason put down? Is he another 100-quid-idiot?

The smaller the bets, the funnier their downfall becomes.

 

[cupid_stunt]

As Gove has acknowledged,

Sky News is quoting him comparing it to party-gate, 'it gives the impression it's one rule for them, and another for us.'

There's another comparison, this dip feeding of the story is going to cause more damage, over a longer period than otherwise, and make Sunak look increasingly weak and stupid, for not suspending the two standing in the GE, when two officials have been, although they're calling it 'leave of absence', and the Met has also suspended the cop involved in this.

 

[klang]

The smaller the bets, the funnier their downfall becomes.

I'd love it if it transpired that all this was a plod to fund the election campaign

 

[cupid_stunt]

Do we know how much Nick Mason put down? Is he another 100-quid-idiot?

The Sunday Times is claiming he made 'dozens of bets* had been placed with potential winnings worth thousands of pounds.'

* Each under £100, which someone on here said is normally the tipping point for investigations to go ahead.

Here's their report - https://archive.ph/fl3jJ

 

[cupid_stunt]

Only just read the Sunday Times' article, reading between the lines, they have more names to dip feed over the coming days.

The Sunday Times can reveal that the three Tories already known to be under investigation are not the only ones.

The commission’s inquiry, which is looking at any bets placed before May 1, has identified several more people who may have placed bets while having first-hand knowledge of when the election would be called.

The watchdog’s inquiry is split into two parts, with these people — said to number fewer than ten — categorised as the “first wave”.

There is also a much larger group, numbering several dozen, who are being looked at as part of a “second wave”. Little is known about these people, but it is thought that they may be associates or contacts of people in the first wave.

I'll be hiring out deckchairs and selling popcorn on Worthing's beach this week.

 

[klang]

Will the tories place bets on who's found out next a day before leaking it to the cops?

 

[andysays]

Sky News is quoting him comparing it to party-gate, 'it gives the impression it's one rule for them, and another for us.'

There's another comparison, this dip feeding of the story is going to cause more damage, over a longer period than otherwise, and make Sunak look increasingly weak and stupid, for not suspending the two standing in the GE, when two officials have been, although they're calling it 'leave of absence', and the Met has also suspended the cop involved in this.

They were already doomed before this started, but it's going to continue to dominate the news and make it impossible for any positive campaigning to turn things around.

I also think this issue will cut through with voters much more than Sunak leaving the D-Day Day out a bit early.

 

[Rob Ray]

Given how many people seem to have known ahead of time it must be quite galling for his colleagues that they were left to find out from a snap press conference.

 

[TopCat]

A drip feed of Tory scheming degenerates in the papers every day.
Excellent.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

 

[The39thStep]

They were already doomed before this started, but it's going to continue to dominate the news and make it impossible for any positive campaigning to turn things around.

I also think this issue will cut through with voters much more than Sunak leaving the D-Day Day out a bit early.

Tbh the Tories were finished with no hope of revival as soon as the election was announced. The gaffes and Reform have though introduced a comic element to it.

 

[xenon]

finding the orchestrated do you condemn Jeremy Corbyn stuff, you know that guy who wasn’t prime minister five years ago and isn’t even a candidate for labour, quite funny for just how pathetic it is.

 

[Voley]

Lib Dem leaflet with in large lettes GRIPPER, look above it and you learn her first name is Ruth. "Make your voice heard" which is a bit ironic because they came nowhere last time.

Going for the still-terrified-of-the-Grange-Hill-bully vote. Sound campaign strategy imo.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

The Sunday Times is claiming he made 'dozens of bets* had been placed with potential winnings worth thousands of pounds.'

* Each under £100, which someone on here said is normally the tipping point for investigations to go ahead.

It's so stupid when it's such small amounts - if you're going to potentially fuck your entire career by insider trading, the rewards should at least match the level of risk.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

Going for the still-terrified-of-the-Grange-Hill-bully vote. Sound campaign strategy imo.

Just say no.

 

[two sheds]

The other question it suggests is "if they're willing to make bets with bookies using insider information, what other profits have they all made from insider knowledge on trade deals and the like?" Does need criminal examination of their bank accounts since they've been in power.

 

[Rob Ray]

It's so stupid when it's such small amounts - if you're going to potentially fuck your entire career by insider trading, the rewards should at least match the level of risk.

These people don't need the money, they're about the thrill of getting away with it. Above a certain income it's all games.

 

[Karl Masks]

Six bet Tory twat

 

[Silas Loom]

The other question it suggests is "if they're willing to make bets with bookies using insider information, what other profits have they all made from insider knowledge on trade deals and the like?" Does need criminal examination of their bank accounts since they've been in power.

Is there much of a betting market on trade deals?

 

[two sheds]

yes, it's called The Stock Market

with "and the like" I was including lucrative orders given to PPE companies and the like.

 

[Elpenor]

Do we know how much Nick Mason put down? Is he another 100-quid-idiot?

Surely he’s rich enough from his Pink Floyd royalties to not need the money off a bet

 

[Pickman's model]

Any party promising the next ge campaign would last a week would be a shoe-in

 

[Pickman's model]

Six bet Tory twat

Curiously that's the number of times you've been banned from here

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

It's so stupid when it's such small amounts - if you're going to potentially fuck your entire career by insider trading, the rewards should at least match the level of risk.

Tbf the head of the current Tory election campaign was doing a pretty good job of fucking up his career anyway.