The 2019 General Election

[killer b]

lol

 

[campanula]

I'm not sure if this is serious or not. But you really don't need to know much to canvas, most of it is just increasing party visibility, letting people know that your party wants their vote. (And most people are generally pretty polite).

I would definitely go out doorstepping but I am not sure that I would be allowed. I left the LP in 1992 - but rejoined during the leadership contest...and was kicked out shortly after (we will not be renewing your party membership....pffft!)
However, my town is very marginal and the anti-Corbyn meme is absolutely toxic. I have fallen out with all but 2 others in my dogwalking group...and both of them are pug owners so I have to walk around the graveyard at snail's pace with snorfling piglets (the pugs, not the owners). Anyway, I fucking loathe the Lib-Dems and I am certain I can cut back on sweary ranting but action, I feel is needed to counteract despair.

 

[butchersapron]

My constituency.
Thangam Debbonaire seems to have it nailed now.

If I knew enough to help with canvassing I would have to help in Kingswood where my Tory family live

Why wait? Canvassing sessions are openly advertised and they don't check your membership card.

That said Kingswood looks safeish tory to me - you'd be better looking on the Momentum marginals map and seeing where's more urgent in your area...

Kingswood is one of those seats labour need to be winning back. It's an area with a reputation for bucking national trends and being v independent. Not in the brighton green sense but in w/c bloody mindedness sense. (They still ended up with a private school oxbridge MP mind). The labour candidate does seem to have that sort of bolshy spark that might appeal to that constituency. How she pitches herself on brexit in this bristol leave seat (higher than national average at that) might be crucial given the current tory MP is opposed to leaving the EU.

 

[a_chap]

Why wait? Canvassing sessions are openly advertised and they don't check your membership card.

That said Kingswood looks safeish tory to me - you'd be better looking on the Momentum marginals map and seeing where's more urgent in your area...

I thought about doing some canvassing.

But then I met the prospective candidate last week and took an instant and very strong dislike to them

 

[killer b]

I thought about doing some canvassing.

But then I met the prospective candidate last week and took an instant and very strong dislike to them

go to a different constituency then

 

[a_chap]

go to a different constituency then

But, but... that's nearly three miles away for goodness sake!

 

[kebabking]

But, but... that's nearly three miles away for goodness sake!

I know it's a bit of a drag, but I'd put good money on the sex pest Tory in Wyre Forest getting a run for his money this time - remainy, no hoper, sacked by TM for getting his staff to buy sex toys on his behalf, never seen in the constituency, and just an all round sleezebag.

Worcester city and WF are the only places worth pounding the streets round here.

Unfortunately the WF Labour candidate is also a bit of a tosser - he nudges my Spidey sences for being a bit of a conspiraloon...

 

[Pickman's model]

But, but... that's nearly three miles away for goodness sake!

i can picture it now

a_chap: i'm canvassing on behalf of the labour party. can we rely on your vote?
voter: you're not from round here, i've seen you three miles away in the next constituency, i've never seen you round here before.
a_chap: the candidate here's really good...
voter: so why aren't you canvassing where you live?
a_chap: well, the candidate there, they've got all the canvassers they need, so i thought i'd come and give this candidate a bit of support.
voter: are you sure that's really why you're here?
a_chap: well, yes
voter: it's just you're the 14th canvasser in the past two days from the next constituency

 

[MickiQ]

My LibDem candidate is the same woman who ran in 2015 when she got 1887 votes and in 2017 when she got 1870 votes so I suspect that she will get about the same this time. The Labour candidate got 10x that but the Tory romped home with 60% of the vote.
She doesn't seem to have announced her candidacy yet but I am largely resigned to the fact that she will be my MP come 13 Dec

 

[Pickman's model]

My LibDem candidate is the same woman who ran in 2015 when she got 1887 votes and in 2017 when she got 1870 votes so I suspect that she will get about the same this time. The Labour candidate got 10x that but the Tory romped home with 60% of the vote.
She doesn't seem to have announced her candidacy yet but I am largely resigned to the fact that she will be my MP come 13 Dec

my prediction? she'll get 1853 votes

 

[Teaboy]

What the fuck is going on with the Green Party by the way? We're supposed to be in the midst of a climate crisis. XR are out on the streets and there is doom and gloom predictions everywhere. As the self-appointed voice for the environment should this not be the time they are shouting the loudest and fighting hardest? Instead they're standing aside so parties who don't really give much of a fuck about the environment can try and stop Brexit.

Is the environment less important than a largely technical argument over immigration, trade and dispute resolution?

 

[SpackleFrog]

What the fuck is going on with the Green Party by the way? We're supposed to be in the midst of a climate crisis. XR are out on the streets and there is doom and gloom predictions everywhere. As the self-appointed voice for the environment should this not be the time they are shouting the loudest and fighting hardest? Instead they're standing aside so parties who don't really give much of a fuck about the environment can try and stop Brexit.

Is the environment less important than a largely technical argument over immigration, trade and dispute resolution?

To the Green Party?

Nah.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

They're shit and they know they are. Mild-mannered Jeremy Vine tied one in knots yesterday by simply asking if he was in favour of parking charges at rural hospitals.

 

[a_chap]

i can picture it now

a_chap: i'm canvassing on behalf of the labour party. can we rely on your vote?
voter: you're not from round here, i've seen you three miles away in the next constituency, i've never seen you round here before.
a_chap: the candidate here's really good...
voter: so why aren't you canvassing where you live?
a_chap: well, the candidate there, they've got all the canvassers they need, so i thought i'd come and give this candidate a bit of support.
voter: are you sure that's really why you're here?
a_chap: well, yes
voter: it's just you're the 14th canvasser in the past two days from the next constituency

 

[andysays]

What the fuck is going on with the Green Party by the way? We're supposed to be in the midst of a climate crisis. XR are out on the streets and there is doom and gloom predictions everywhere. As the self-appointed voice for the environment should this not be the time they are shouting the loudest and fighting hardest? Instead they're standing aside so parties who don't really give much of a fuck about the environment can try and stop Brexit...

But, but, but
15:05 Swinson focuses on green agenda

Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson has also been out campaigning today, pushing the party's green agenda on a visit to the West Country. During a tour of a Forest School in Welton, Somerset, Ms Swinson says the Lib Dems are committed to environmental issues and are looking to gain seats in south-west England. Ms Swinson chatted to staff and children at the eco-friendly nursery and joined a group toasting marshmallows on a fire.

Can't get much more committed to the environment than that

 

[JimW]

Interviewed later, one of the children said it was one of the biggest melts she'd ever been in the presence of.

 

[JimW]

Just seen the Yellow filth are standing aside for the Greens in super marginal Stroud (couldn't access the lists upthread), might actually help Dave Drew keep the seat.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Just seen the Yellow filth are standing aside for the Greens in super marginal Stroud (couldn't access the lists upthread), might actually help Dave Drew keep the seat.

There's a lot of places where a resurgent Lib Dem vote might actually massively help Labour to be honest. They seem to be pitching squarely at Tory remain voters.

 

[a_chap]

I think this election is all much too complicated.

I recommend that all seats are determined by the candidates taking part in duels.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I think this election is all much too complicated.

I recommend that all seats are determined by the candidates taking part in duels.

No weapons all-ins. Bagsie NE Somerset!

 

[chilango]

There's a lot of places where a resurgent Lib Dem vote might actually massively help Labour to be honest. They seem to be pitching squarely at Tory remain voters.

Yep. Although I think they think they're pitching at Labour "moderates".

 

[Proper Tidy]

I think this election is all much too complicated.

I recommend that all seats are determined by the candidates taking part in duels.

Only if they both get to shoot first

 

[Pickman's model]

Only if they both get to shoot first

Make sure neither of them delopes by tying them to stakes and using a firing squad

 

[kabbes]

But as part of a 'remain pact' that presumably involves telling their supporters to vote Lib Dem? if they just wanted to clear the decks they could have just stood aside and told them to vote Labour, like they did in Calder Valley.

It’s a bit of a stretch, but this way it would only be the Greens standing aside for Labour — the LDs would have already stood aside for the Greens. That way, Swinson can maintain her anti-Corbyn stance and yet still not contest this marginal.
Just a thought. Probably over-complicating it.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Make sure neither of them delopes by tying them to stakes and using a firing squad

After all who amongst us doesn't believe in democracy and equality of opportunity

 

[killer b]

It’s a bit of a stretch, but this way it would only be the Greens standing aside for Labour — the LDs would have already stood aside for the Greens. That way, Swinson can maintain her anti-Corbyn stance and yet still not contest this marginal.
Just a thought. Probably over-complicating it.

I might have confused matters sorry - the Greens are standing aside for the LDs in Penistone, despite neither of them getting anywhere last time and it being a Lab/Tory marginal

 

[bluescreen]

Make sure neither of them delopes by tying them to stakes and using a firing squad

New word I have learned today.

 

[gentlegreen]

There's a lot of places where a resurgent Lib Dem vote might actually massively help Labour to be honest. They seem to be pitching squarely at Tory remain voters.

And putting them off with the bonkers "revoke" stance.

 

[belboid]

I might have confused matters sorry - the Greens are standing aside for the LDs in Penistone, despite neither of them getting anywhere last time and it being a Lab/Tory marginal

I think you may have said that in the first place and I confused matters! Not sure now. Either way, pretty pointless.

 

[cupid_stunt]

It's just part of Jo Swinson's grand plan to be our next PM.