The 2019 General Election
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agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Have Labour even got a candidate there yet?
I dunno. I don't know if that really matters that much though, it's the party that wins in the vast majority of seats. An energetic candidate might be able to shift things a % or two, but people vote nationally in generals.
teqniq
DisMembered
Reckon this could be a real vote loser for the vermin. Which is why it's probably unlikely to happen.
Labour, Lib Dems and SNP call for TV election debate on climate crisis
Labour, Lib Dems and SNP call for TV election debate on climate crisis
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
If grieve hadn't got such a parliamentary stick up his arse, he'd publish it himself. He'll have the substantive report, if not the massaged no. 10 version.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Well done for pissing off the Scots sky.
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Debates are usually shit anyway.
I can't vote for the SNP and neither can most other people in the UK, and if you put them in why not Plaid? Or the Greens? Eventually you end up with one of the even more comical 10 speaking heads and two seconds each debates.
Sod that.
Just get 30-60 minutes of each leader on there lonesome getting grilled by the public and answering questions. Got to better than the 5 minute I'm great political rallying cries masquerading as debates the TV channels put on.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
3rd biggest party in the UK, 2nd biggest membership. Libdems are 4th. Swinson can't be PM anyway because of EVEL.
Libdems and Labour don't stand in NI either, only the tories do afaik.
they don't
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Don't get me wrong, Swinson can do one, but the SNP are as irrelevant as the Lib Dems but for different reasons.
I'd rather not hear from either but the arbitrary decision to include the piss eagle brigade at least makes some sense for an all UK broadcast.
Literally nobody gives a fuck about Norn. It's an embarrassment to the establishment and the Irish really can't afford to deal with it.
andysays
Love and solidarity
What's EVEL?
And Sturgeon can't be PM because she isn't an MP, she's an MSP, whereas Swinson can at least fantasize about it, even though it's never going to happen.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
English votes for English laws - more here.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
It does, they are...but the relentless negative messaging will stick for the tories. We've got 6 more weeks of this.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Can you give some of the reasons why Scotland's representatives, as I say the SNP are the 3rd biggest UK party, are irrelevant...in the UK?
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Even on Today they were getting a bit tired of him answering every question with "Jeremy Corbyn loves Putin" and saying how great Boris was. It might turn into another "strong and stable" at this rate.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Suspect they're more likely to carry on with the lines but maybe put Gove back in the cupboard for a while.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
It’s not been tested post EVEL, but there were many comments at the time that MPs for Scottish Westminster constituencies could not now become PM (because of the West Lothian Question: they’d be responsible for laws in England that they aren’t responsible for in their own constituency, due to devolution). It’s something that can’t really be resolved in an asymmetrically devolved state. The solutions can only be found in federal U.K. or independence.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Not intentional.
Would be interesting to have some drug and blood alcohol tests done.
Given that they are proposing, reading and voting on policy and making statements that impact millions of lives it is not too big an ask really. I think the likes of Gove/Johnson have already said on record that they took drugs but regret it so there is nothing to fear is there?
andysays
Love and solidarity
It's an interesting constitutional anomaly to mull over on the dark autumnal evenings ahead, but I suggest it's far from the main obstacle Swinson faces in her attempt to become PM
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Well quite. The idea that they’re even likely to overtake the SNP in seat numbers is, I submit, far fetched. I expect all their recent defections to be seatless by Christmas.It's an interesting constitutional anomaly to mull over on the dark autumnal evenings ahead, but I suggest it's far from the main obstacle Swinson faces in her attempt to become PM
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the lib dems have constructed yet another obstacle to their success, which is to be ludicrously euphoric and exaggeratedly optimistic about their prospects, which to the uninformed (and indeed to the informed) makes it appear they have taken leave of their senses.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
When will the milkshake throwing start?
andysays
Love and solidarity
But at least it gives the rest if us a cheap laugh
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you have to take your laughs where you can get them these days
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
The news in Scotland at the time was full of MPs and ministers commenting (variously approvingly or disapprovingly) that the implication was very much that no MP for a Scottish constituency could now be PM. It may not have hit radars south of the border, but it certainly did here.Unless I'm missing something (not the first time) there's nothing there to say an MP representing a non-English constituency can't be PM, merely that non-English MPs can't vote on exclusively English laws.
It's almost like DexterTCN is talking nonsense, or something
But as I say, that aspect has yet to be tested.
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