The 2019 General Election

[Cid]

It's such a shame that Owen Smith was forced out. Such a shame.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It's such a shame that Owen Smith was forced out. Such a shame.

And then before that, they chose the wrong Milliband. Wasted opportunities.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Not dumping Corbyn when May left was a massive mistake, and one that'a likely to cost the UK a lot.

Who for?
How does he/she stop the rot you've identified?

 

[DotCommunist]

this is it, for all the talk of dumping him, how exactly was that supposed to happen? It was tried, more than once. Through coup, through open challenge.

 

[Don Troooomp]

do you honestly think that there was the desire for another leadership contest in the labour party in the summer?

If there was no such feeling, the Corbyn and the PLP didn't read the electorate. Corbyn should have stepped down with grace and left the field open for someone not useless, but it didn't happen.
Johnson moving into No10 was a new challenge, one Corbyn had no clue how to handle, but he stayed anyway.
If Labour gets killed in the polls, that's where it started.

 

[Pickman's model]

Also, idiotic infighting is messing the job up. It's great for the tories, but not helpful to Labour. We can see Corbyn is a very unpopular politician with no personality, but it's almost like some in the Labour ranks want to destroy the party and will do anything they can to see it happen.
If, and I hope this doesn't happen, the Labour party get hammered at the polls, it's Corbyn's fault.

May leaving was the perfect time to ditch the useless bugger as a change of leadership could have been put down to new needs, but the silly sod hung on and it's likely to be costly in far too many ways.

yeh and if labour do really well at the polls it will doubtless be despite corbyn.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Corbyn should have stepped down with grace and left the field open for someone not useless, but it didn't happen.

Like who? Come on, just one name.

 

[Pickman's model]

Like who? Come on, just one name.

he'll have to get his big book of labour politicians down from the shelf

 

[elbows]

I'm going to assume that 'no personality' actually means the way they come across in mass media, and the absence of certain specific personality traits.

Like John Major, Corbyn is said to do much better on the streets during an election campaign than any of this media shit would suggest.

Larger than life shitheads need not apply.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

he'll have to get his big book of labour politicians down from the shelf

 

[Don Troooomp]

There's still a month to go so time for things to change. However, it'll be people seeing though that tory twat that makes the difference, not Corbyn's leadership.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

There's still a month to go so time for things to change. However, it'll be people seeing though that tory twat that makes the difference, not Corbyn's leadership.

Hmmm. You set up a bullet-proof position that cannot be proved wrong. Win and it's not down to Corbyn. Lose and it's Corbyn's fault.

 

[Proper Tidy]

I think this is a big part of how corbynism happens. Because nothing makes me want to start posting corbyn memes and go labourite and ignore the misgivings quite like the apolitical dribble of anti corbyn labour types. 'Somebody less useless' like for instance any of those people who caused labour to lose half its voters and more importantly its natural constituency

 

[SpackleFrog]

Also, idiotic infighting is messing the job up. It's great for the tories, but not helpful to Labour.

Idiotic infighting like, say, a leadership election during a General Election campaign?

Either answer Smokeandsteam's question and indicate who you think Labour should have as their leader instead or please - and I really do mean please - shut the fuck up.

Honestly, your inane yammering is so stupifying I feel like I'm slipping into a coma every time I read your posts.

 

[Don Troooomp]

Hmmm. You set up a bullet-proof position that cannot be proved wrong. Win and it's not down to Corbyn. Lose and it's Corbyn's fault.

The same thing - Corbyn is crap

 

[Proper Tidy]

Four hours reading dickheads bang on about magic grandpa and how 1997 - 2010 was a golden age for social democracy and the working class because sure start and I temporarily forget about the mural and the shit swp meets charles kennedy politics and find my finger over the buy now button for one of those sadfuck arm john mcdonnell tshirts

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The same thing - Corbyn is crap

That makes no sense as a response to my post.

 

[killer b]

Four hours reading dickheads bang on about magic grandpa and how 1997 - 2010 was a golden age for social democracy and the working class because sure start and I temporarily forget about the mural and the shit swp meets charles kennedy politics and find my finger over the buy now button for one of those sadfuck arm john mcdonnell tshirts

I mostly want a Labour victory for the pleasure of watching all the worst people in the world having to tuck into a fresh plate of turds on the morning of Dec 13.

 

[DotCommunist]

so people are trying to make cummings the kremlin man a thing. The paranoid style of modern libs.

 

[tim]

Like who? Come on, just one name.

If I look resolutely pensive enough, it could be me!

 

[farmerbarleymow]

farmerbarleymow

He has always had delusions of grandeur

I thought you always vote for the Blobfish party?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Interesting developments in Northern Ireland.

On Monday morning the SDLP confirmed it will not be contesting North Belfast, East Belfast and North Down. Deputy leader Nichola Mallon would not be drawn on if she would herself, or advise others, to vote Sinn Fein in the constituency.

"Given the reality of our political situation," she said, "We need to remove as much as possible the very toxic pro-Brexit, pro-Boris DUP MPs, who over their antics over the last two years have done nothing to represent the interests of the people of Northern Ireland."

Sinn Fein has said it won't run candidates in three constituencies in the forthcoming December General Election.

The party urged Alliance to consider its anti-pact stance as it announced its decision not to stand candidates in South Belfast, East Belfast and North Down.

General Election: Sinn Fein pulls out of three constituencies in race for Westminster seats - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

 

[Pickman's model]

tony blair weighs in Tony Blair accuses Jeremy Corbyn of Donald Trump-style 'populism' and backs tactical election voting | Daily Mail Online
at last he's worked out that if he says one thing people will generally do the opposite

 

[Raheem]

It's such a shame that Owen Smith was forced out. Such a shame.

I don't think a woman in labour has much choice, though.

 

[andysays]

Interesting developments in Northern Ireland.





General Election: Sinn Fein pulls out of three constituencies in race for Westminster seats - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Can some one clarify who is likely to benefit from those moves, because the article doesn't make that very clear.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Can some one clarify who is likely to benefit from those moves, because the article doesn't make that very clear.

Inference seems to be that it's more about fucking the DUP.

 

[andysays]

Inference seems to be that it's more about fucking the DUP.

Sorry if I'm being dim, but how would it fuck the DUP? Which party currently holds those seats?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Can some one clarify who is likely to benefit from those moves, because the article doesn't make that very clear.

It's to fuck over the DUP, by not splitting the remain vote.

 

[Pickman's model]

Sorry if I'm being dim, but how would it fuck the DUP? Which party currently holds those seats?

what they're doing is putting up one 'unity' candidate to prevent the remain vote being split among the sdlp, sinn fein and the alliance party. so they're thinking their one candidate would have more votes than the dup candidate.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Sorry if I'm being dim, but how would it fuck the DUP? Which party currently holds those seats?

They are all DUP - apart from North Down, which is held by a former UUP member, now an Independent, who might stand down. I'm not sure about North Down as both the Shinners and Alliance seem not to be standing.