brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yep, can't see where Lab could possibly pick up votes from; the yellow vermin only got 4% in 2017.
The 2019 General Election
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Yep, can't see where Lab could possibly pick up votes from; the yellow vermin only got 4% in 2017.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Given the 'local decision makers' we've got round here, so crooked they can see the backs of their own heads, this policy is a vote loser for me.
And I don't give a shit about Radio 4, as Radio 3 is now my soothing RP background noise of choice.
mauvais
on reddit or something
Labour (indeed, anyone) can pick up thousands of voters from the influential 'didn't vote' demographic.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
True enough, but & 67% the U&SR turnout was pretty much bang on the national average for the 2017 GE; I suppose it could be significantly higher this time...but I've not seen many predicting much higher turnouts for the 2019?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I've never seen a convincing explanation as to why UK youth voter turnout is so low compared to most other countries. The initial stories about youth turnout being sharply up in 2017 turned out to be overstated. It remains a potential nut for someone to crack.
Whichever way we look at this, it's dark news.
I'm well aware Boris Johnson is a dick of the worst kind, but he's grabbing votes for the tories and that means things are looking bad. At least the brexit party are having problems, so there's some bright side.
I really hope this turns around, but it might be a mess.
I'm well aware Boris Johnson is a dick of the worst kind, but he's grabbing votes for the tories and that means things are looking bad. At least the brexit party are having problems, so there's some bright side.
I really hope this turns around, but it might be a mess.
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One thing is clear, the Labour party must dump Corbyn or suffer until they do. It's looking a lot like he's gifting Brexit to the Tories, and badly damaging the party while he's on the go.
I loved it when May was in charge - she was really crap and almost sabotaged Brexit without any help.
I was sad when she left number 10, a lot more so when that bastard moved in.
I loved it when May was in charge - she was really crap and almost sabotaged Brexit without any help.
I was sad when she left number 10, a lot more so when that bastard moved in.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
which bland centrist from the fucking clone factory meets the approval of Donald Trooooomp ? Would it be Yvette Cooper maybe? Perhaps the craggy yet patrician features of Kier Starmer?
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Swinson, I suspect.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
I think the Brexit Party is self imploding 
Seeing the Farage getting a lot of stick about not running for parliament - their vote share in opinion polls is now hovering around 10%, hopefully that will decrease still further. Despite saying they would field 650, they are now not standing in NI - I was looking forward to that 
. They were obsessed with the Labour Leave vote, thinking that 5m? Labour Leave voters would clearly vote for them 
I think Labour Leave voters may want some sort of Brexit, but they are not going to want batshit crazy Brexit Party MPs.
Seeing the Farage getting a lot of stick about not running for parliament - their vote share in opinion polls is now hovering around 10%, hopefully that will decrease still further. Despite saying they would field 650, they are now not standing in NI - I was looking forward to that . They were obsessed with the Labour Leave vote, thinking that 5m? Labour Leave voters would clearly vote for them I think Labour Leave voters may want some sort of Brexit, but they are not going to want batshit crazy Brexit Party MPs.
I hope the polls are well out, they have been in the past, but it looks bad because most seem to be about the same.
Johnson seems to be the big reason, regardless of how crappy that is and what it says about tory voters.
Johnson seems to be the big reason, regardless of how crappy that is and what it says about tory voters.
Cid
Proper break this time
I think the Brexit Party is self imploding
Yougov above has them down to 7% as of Nov 1st.
I think the Brexit Party is self imploding
I'm really happy to see this, but their votes seem to have mostly gone back to the blasted tories.
As for Farage, need I say what I think of that twat?
maomao
普費斯
No, you're fine mate.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Leaving aside the fact that dumping a leader 6 weeks before an election is insane, what exactly would this new leader need to do to reverse Labour's position?
Take your time.....
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Thanks.
Leaving aside the fact that dumping a leader 6 weeks before an election is insane, what exactly would this new leader need to do to reverse Labour's position?
Take your time.....
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you don't seem to follow the news. or if you do, you don't seem to understand it.
Tough one, but not being a useless idiot like Corbyn would be a good start. With May gone he hasn't got a hope of anything because only that inept tory idiot kept his numbers up.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you seem determined to force everyone to consider you a fool
Given I'm quoting polls that show Labour way down and Corbyn very unpopular, this suggesting the tories are likely to win and get Brexit through, I suggest you're a pointless wanker without a clue .. or just trolling again.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
He may not be the most remain-y of remainers - but has played a clever game - he had left it to the Tories to fuck themselves again over the EU - and the current Labour policy - renegotiate the WA, and have a referendum on the deal with a remain option - is a sensible proposal - keeps remainers (mostly) on side - doesn't piss off labour brexiters too much.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
there is of course only one poll that matters, and your focussing on polls which have been taken before manifestos have been published or indeed candidates declared suggests you're coming unarmed - once more - to a battle of wits.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
In your opinion who in Labour's ranks is not a useless idiot? Who can stop the rot?
Ignoring reality is the best way of fucking up in an even more spectacular way than is on the cards at the moment.
I want to tories down to shit all, Brexit forgotten, and a Labour PM sitting in No 10, but it doesn't look like I'm going to see any if that unless something drastic happens.
Not dumping Corbyn when May left was a massive mistake, and one that'a likely to cost the UK a lot.
I want to tories down to shit all, Brexit forgotten, and a Labour PM sitting in No 10, but it doesn't look like I'm going to see any if that unless something drastic happens.
Not dumping Corbyn when May left was a massive mistake, and one that'a likely to cost the UK a lot.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
do you honestly think that there was the desire for another leadership contest in the labour party in the summer?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Dumping Corbyn for whom, though? You seem light on the detail.
Also, idiotic infighting is messing the job up. It's great for the tories, but not helpful to Labour. We can see Corbyn is a very unpopular politician with no personality, but it's almost like some in the Labour ranks want to destroy the party and will do anything they can to see it happen.
If, and I hope this doesn't happen, the Labour party get hammered at the polls, it's Corbyn's fault.
May leaving was the perfect time to ditch the useless bugger as a change of leadership could have been put down to new needs, but the silly sod hung on and it's likely to be costly in far too many ways.
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