The 2019 General Election

[SpineyNorman]

Troomp will be along soon to tell us that the way to sort out education is to have smaller signs, get them run by tesco cos nationalisation never works and to have 8 hours PE a week where they have to ride exercise bikes connected to generators so the electricity can be sold to the national grid to fund share dividends.

 

[Steel Icarus]

 

[Marty1]

Given the loser here is the Labour party, it seems reasonable to consider a whole new approach.
If wanting to get Labour into government is what you see as trolling, you're a sad fucker.

I think that’s the disparity, you look for an electoral win others here seem they’d rather have a moral one and indulge in arrogance and sneering.

It’s the latter that could possibly keep Labour out of power for generations.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Fucking hell, it's the brains trust

 

[kabbes]

“Labour lost so 100% of the things they were advocating for were unpopular with everyone”.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Almost as though Don and M1 just haven't read anything whatsoever on Urban or elsewhere other than the biggest type in the shittest papers

 

[Pickman's model]

Almost as though Don and M1 just haven't read anything whatsoever on Urban or elsewhere other than the biggest type in the shittest papers

They have all the political nous of Jo Swinson, the architect of the recent election and our next prime minister

 

[tommers]

Still at least those potholes will be well filled.

 

[Pickman's model]

Still at least those potholes will be well filled.

All the labour mps who lost their seats have been employed by the government to first dig and then fill potholes on the a406 around hangar lane as part of a pilot scheme

 

[not a trot]

MY wife and I don't enjoy the best of health and are getting on in years. it's a sobering thought that we most likely will never see another Labour government in our lifetimes.

 

[two sheds]

I think that’s the disparity, you looks for an electoral win others here seem they’d rather have a moral one and indulge in arrogance and sneering.

It’s the latter that could possibly keep Labour out of power for generations.

Nice bit of arrogance and sneering there

 

[Don Troooomp]

Within the Conservative Party both Gove and Hancock have sparked rows by trying to move against private schools.

You may want to read more on the subject before making such sweeping assumptions.

yes, sparked rows. That means the policy is contentious. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

 

[rekil]

Trromp is the Artem Bahmet of u75.

Spoiler

 

[Don Troooomp]

So, to prove the left wing and their ideas work, just tell us all the dates of a successful left wing Labour government that lasted 2 full terms.

I ask but never get an answer Anyone have any idea why the left refuse to answer?

 

[chilango]

yes, sparked rows. That means the policy is contentious. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

Of course it's contentious.

The point is it's been a regular proposal, and not from the far-left, for 70 years.

Hardly some new game changer.

 

[Proper Tidy]

yes, sparked rows. That means the policy is contentious. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

Contentious amongst tories yeah

 

[Pickman's model]

So, to prove the left wing and their ideas work, just tell us all the dates of a successful left wing Labour government that lasted 2 full terms.

I ask but never get an answer Anyone have any idea why the left refuse to answer?

Because it's a stupid question from a stupid person I suspect

 

[Poi E]

yes, sparked rows. That means the policy is contentious. Is that easy enough for you to understand?

By that token you just end up brown nosing the middle and upper classes in England, like it's always been. I mean, the schools are shit, producing lazy wankers. I've had to manage them. Their strongest skill is waiting for someone else to volunteer for a task. Sure, they're affable and come with that easy confidence that people here mistake for competence. But c'mon, they're a hijacked feudal relic and who gives a fuck if the public are fascinated with them like they are with Downton Abbey. Although I doubt they are.

 

[Don Troooomp]

Screw it, to save waiting for them to deflect, I'll answer. The Labour left have Never managed a successful 2 term run.

That would suggest far left wing ideas are crap in that they don't work in reality, and the whole fucking daft leaning is unpopular. Labour only get in when the Tories fuck themselves over, never because the Labour left have ever managed anything.
This election was especially shit, the left having taken over the whole job, stuffed a total fucking idiot into the leadership, then watched with support when he chose fucking idiots like 2 left shoes into his shadow cabinet.

Now, before some bleeding idiot starts claiming I'm a Blair fan - Fuck off - he was a cunt almost as bad as Thatcher.

 

[Poi E]

So ditch all the policies just get the personality right. No wonder England becomes a more inchoate place by the day.

 

[Don Troooomp]

By that token you just end up brown nosing the middle and upper classes in England, like it's always been. I mean, the schools are shit, producing lazy wankers. I've had to manage them. Their strongest skill is waiting for someone else to volunteer for a task. Sure, they're affable and come with that easy confidence that people here mistake for competence. But c'mon, they're a hijacked feudal relic and who gives a fuck if the public are fascinated with them like they are with Downton Abbey. Although I doubt they are.

What they are hardly matters, attacking them in any way brings weight against you.
Perhaps you can explain the advantages of destroying them, and how that will help get a Labour PM into number 10.

who gives a fuck if the public are fascinated with them like they are with Downton Abbey.

Sort of depends if you want a Labour government or not.

 

[chilango]

What far-left ideas?
(I know, I should just ignore him, sorry)

 

[Don Troooomp]

So ditch all the policies just get the personality right. No wonder England becomes a more inchoate place by the day.

Ditch all the shit policies, then get personalities that don't look and sound like fucking idiots. Not personality politics, just removing easy targets that keep labour in opposition.

 

[Don Troooomp]

What far-left ideas?
(I know, I should just ignore him, sorry)

There's a list further up the thread

 

[Don Troooomp]

Because it's a stupid question from a stupid person I suspect

No - Because you refuse to answer because you can't without admitting the far left are unpopular and crap at their jobs.
If you can prove me wrong - Do so by posting the dates, PM, how many years they were in power, and their achievements.
Don't bother if they didn't manage 10 years in government, or left the country in a mess with things like very high inflation and debts to the IMF.

 

[Proper Tidy]

I keep blocking the cunt, only person I've ever blocked, then unblocking cos threads don't make sense (how do serial blockers cope), honestly he's doing my tits in, why can't somebody just fuck him off

 

[Don Troooomp]

I'll give you a clue, the largest ever loan from the IMF was in 1976.

 

[chilango]

There's a list further up the thread

There isn't.

That's my point.

That they've been repeatedly painted as far-left by vested interests and that this has been breathlessly repeated by many is undeniably a problem.

But the policies themselves?

Nothing that would out of place on mainstream manifestos for most post-war elections in the UK and nothing that would look out of place in our OECD peers.

I've given you the example of Labour's policy on private schools as that's my own area of interest.

 

[Don Troooomp]

I keep blocking the cunt, only person I've ever blocked, then unblocking cos threads don't make sense (how do serial blockers cope), honestly he's doing my tits in, why can't somebody just fuck him off

Try answering the questions

Which years have far left Labour governments run for two terms?
Which Labour governments have left power with the country in a better state than when they took office, thus left the electorate better off?

 

[chilango]

I keep blocking the cunt, only person I've ever blocked, then unblocking cos threads don't make sense (how do serial blockers cope), honestly he's doing my tits in, why can't somebody just fuck him off

Sorry PT. I'll give him till I've finished my morning cup of tea and if nothing improves I'll press the button too.