magneze
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Sorry, I don't see it. Does anyone vote on the basis that one party is "ideological"? Even if some do, are they enough to sway anything? Again, I think the answer is no.
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Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
yet none of those are household bogeymen like Stalin etc. All ‘we’ have is Hitler (which sounds preposterous) and Thatcher, which won’t work on everyone and might be worn out from overuse.
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
I respect such people for putting the hours in that they have, and I think on the whole you're right that their motivations are entirely positive. It's far better that they want to do something and change something than not giving a shit. But what we're talking about is the difference between politics conducted by blitzing a place with leaflets at election time, maybe even a few times a year away from elections, maybe even at best with a bit of door-knocking, and permanent, year-round community-based organising. They both have their uses and it doesn't do much good for anyone to get too purist or sanctimonious about people who are doing something rather than nothing, which is why I said I don't really hold with using the term you're querying, but they're clearly not the same thing or equally as impactful.
E2a: also I'm not making any judgement here about whether anyone who has used the term 'hobbyist' about others is in fact the kind of year-round committed community activist who might be in a position to do so with any justification. I don't know anyone here irl.
gosub
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Didn't dare share on facebook as this weekend it is full of people blaming the electorate, the media, the electoral system...
<didn't vote>
Not that unhappy with the result as it at least crystallises the challenges the Country faces, but one of the most urgent is the need for an effective oppostion....I see the Government is now boycotting the Today prram, Mr Johnson clearly has an allergy to scrutiny . All the more reason for ensuring that he is.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Five years of ambushing his every publick appearance beckons
The video says exactly what I've been saying for ages, and the insults noted in the video are exactly what I've been attacked with.
That in mind, thank you to Corbyn and all his fucking moronic supporters, including those on here, for 5 fucking terrible years of cunt Johnson and his tory fucking cuntmob.
It's your fucking fault so wake the fuck up, fucking slap yourselves across the face, then stop being such a set of Johnfuckingson pals, because that's what you are when you fucked up Labour.
Corbyn - Fuck off tomorrow morning because you're an idiot tory supporting cunt, and you're too fucking stupid to see it.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
U ok hun
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Ok boomer.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
No, I'm not sure that it does.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
You shouldn't hit the booze so early in the day
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I'll remind you of this post when Labour's descent into your preferred flavour of woke right wing liberal bullshit has rendered them an irrelevance.
Labour's northern constituencies didn't abandon them in 2017 when Corbyn came out with a "dangerously socialist" manifesto for the Labour campaign. But they did abandon Labour after the pivot towards Remain. Labour opened themselves up to having their vote split by the Brexit party and here we are.
8ball
#notallwomenz
Good point.
gosub
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Idris2002
Stay Alive in '25
A pint? That's very nearly an armful.
gosub
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Last time I had a blood test, the nurse wasn't old enough to know the quote, getting old.
rekil
to menny cranks
Idris2002
Stay Alive in '25
In Andersonstown about 20 years ago, I met a lad proudly wearing a "Tony Hancock Appreciation Society" t-shirt.
elbows
Well-Known Member
A lot of weight resting on her shoulders, making sure Magna Carta did not die in vain.
Idris2002
Stay Alive in '25
Well now you can!
A lash up with (checks notes) the CPGBML? Thank you my dear, you have delighted us enough already.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
See. Right-wing governments give better satire.
The upturn's started already.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Post-election statement from the ACG: Never Mind the Ballots, Create the Resistance – Anarchist Communist Group
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Well I hope everyone at BBC towers has learned their lesson about sucking up to the school bully.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Narrator: "They had not learned their lesson."
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Fear isn't the only motivation anyway - plenty of people in BBC news appear to simply think that Labour deserved the treatment they got and there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. Matey chats with Farage every morning, selfies with Johnson, all fine. It was just when the Tories started absolutely taking the piss and threatening their own self-image as Proper Journalists if they completely let them get away with it that Neil or fucking Schofield starting coming down on them. I mean take Neil - he's got a very long history of being pro-Tory, but he also clearly thinks of himself as a hard-hitting no-nonsense objective interviewer. If you show him a fish in a barrel he will pull the trigger.
But actually, intimidating the BBC isn't the Tories' main motivation anyway IMO. Just like Trump, it's to send a message to their supporters about who they should listen to.
But actually, intimidating the BBC isn't the Tories' main motivation anyway IMO. Just like Trump, it's to send a message to their supporters about who they should listen to.
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