The 2019 General Election

[treelover]

Housing charities and food banks report spike in donations after Tory win

Not all people abandoning the poor, etc.

 

[Marty1]

I confess I've thought "I better drop the booze and fags now, can't cope with all this shit on top of hangovers and coughing" but somehow I still seem to be smoking and drinking.

Start vaping

 

[treelover]

Blue Labour are making their pitch

any links?

Glassman?

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

It's this sort of insight that makes me want to pay a monthly subscription

Just shy of $40,000 a year on her Patreon.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Just shy of $40,000 a year on her Patreon.

Christ. Her lifestyle politics obviously inspire the stupid, gullible and the rich.

 

[treelover]

Apparently there is going to be a Sheffield Transformed event(the world transformed), i wonder if it will learn any lessons.

 

[Marty1]

A bit of pushing and shouting going on in London and Glasgow protesting against the election result.

 

[butchersapron]

Is there something wrong with you? Have you missed a day or something? Any other breaking news?

SUTR are an SWP front btw, the SWP supported leave. They're your comrades.

 

[Mr Moose]

Not all people abandoning the poor, etc.

We had to do something with all the food we bought for the victory party.

 

[Marty1]

Is there something wrong with you? Have you missed a day or something? Any other breaking news?

I did read somewhere that there were ‘riots’ going on but from what I’ve seen of various footage it looks more like middle class spoilt brats causing a rumpus.

Though in one clip I’m pretty sure I saw one youngster carrying an Antifa flag

 

[treelover]

I remember hearing Blair say, "We're all middle class now," and thinking, uh-oh..

All of us who voted labour from London or the pockets (other than Liverpool) that are broadly middle-class (Brighton and Hove, etc) need to ask ourselves some questions, too. We marched against Brexit, but did we march against Universal Credit? Did we march against the Bedroom Tax? Do we march against homelessness or food banks? WE all need to look at ourselves and our own blinkered priorities. Let's check our privilege, dry our crocodile tears and take a hard look at ourselves

On CIF, he/she gets it.

 

[teuchter]

Yeah, but it sounds like air rushing out of a punctured tyre. Left wing hobbyists had an even worse night than their hero

I assume the definition of a "left wing hobbyist" tends to exclude whoever is using it to describe others, they themselves being considered "left wing pros" or suchlike?

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I assume the definition of a "left wing hobbyist" tends to exclude whoever is using it to describe others, they themselves being considered "left wing pros" or suchlike?

no.

 

[billy_bob]

I assume the definition of a "left wing hobbyist" tends to exclude whoever is using it to describe others, they themselves being considered "left wing pros" or suchlike?

You seem to be asking for confirmation that people who criticise a group they don't see themselves as belonging to don't see themselves as belonging to that group.

 

[tommers]

Spoke to my mum's wife today and she said she was really glad that Corbyn hadn't got in as "the country would have been taken over within a year".

As in, by another country - presumably Russia or I dunno the fucking IRA or something. I didn't feel up to investigating further.

So, you know, feel free to rationalise people's choices but also remember that folk like that exist.

 

[treelover]

Boris Johnson announces plans for spending spree in north

The people's govt'

who is advising him, is this Cummings work?

 

[billy_bob]

Spoke to my mum's wife today and she said she was really glad that Corbyn hadn't got in as "the country would have been taken over within a year".

As in, by another country - presumably Russia or I dunno the fucking IRA or something. I didn't feel up to investigating further.

So, you know, feel free to rationalise people's choices but also remember that folk like that exist.

Maybe by the Antisemites, all coming over here. Stay in bloody Antisemitania!

 

[two sheds]

We really needed a strong leader like Swinson who'd nuke anyone who'd try and take us over - before they even do it to show them a lesson.

 

[Ming]

Boris Johnson announces plans for spending spree in north

The people's govt'

who is advising him, is this Cummings work?

Well let’s see if the money shows up. He is known to be economical with the actualite.

 

[Proper Tidy]

I assume the definition of a "left wing hobbyist" tends to exclude whoever is using it to describe others, they themselves being considered "left wing pros" or suchlike?

 

[Puddy_Tat]

We really needed a strong leader like Swinson who'd nuke anyone who'd try and take us over - before they even do it to show them a lesson.

especially if they are a squirrel

 

[two sheds]

Yeh wouldn't get taken over by squirrels with her in charge.

 

[friedaweed]

Well, it is indeed pleasing to see a Conservative government with a good solid majority, albeit with more than a bit of sadness because of who the PM is.

I have been reading this thread since about 10 last night, until I went to bed at 7 this morning.

You lot really don't get it, do you? I appreciate that there are a lot of youngsters on the board, but the older people should have got it. Britain does not do extremist politics. Everyone I spoke to, of all political views, were very worried about the terminal economic damage that the lunatic duo would have done to the country. If Labour wants to have a hope of ever returning to government they must drop Corbyn, McDonnell and most urgently Lansman. The Labour Party has been hijacked by the modern iteration of Militant Tendency, and until they return to centre left have no hope whatsoever of becoming the government.

Labour has two choices, return to sanity, or, remain in opposition for ever.

Dog Vomit I'm alright Jack. Fill in the gaps and merry xmas chuck x

 

[marty21]

Just shy of $40,000 a year on her Patreon.

FFS

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

FFS

Nice baseline income, huh?

 

[Shechemite]

Where’s that excerpt from?

 

[Proper Tidy]

Where’s that excerpt from?

It's pablo inglesias (podemos), a speech he made a few years ago. All here:

The Left Can Win

 

[Shechemite]

It's pablo inglesias (podemos), a speech he made a few years ago. All here:

The Left Can Win

Ta. I’m trying to remember what Berkman said about Bolshevik activists being scared of/confused by workers.

 

[Ming]

One thing that’s occurred to me is how right wing politics is viewed by joe voting public as being non-ideological. Like it’s the party of freedom. And left wing politics is ideological. Marx, USSR, ‘the enemy within’, etc. When right wing politics is actually intensely ideological. Hayek, Strauss, Friedman, Rand, etc. I think it’d be a good tactic going forward to point this out.

 

[Proper Tidy]

One thing that’s occurred to me is how right wing politics is viewed by joe voting public as being non-ideological. Like it’s the party of freedom. And left wing politics is ideological. Marx, USSR, ‘the enemy within’, etc. When right wing politics is actually intensely ideological. Hayek, Strauss, Friedman, Rand, etc. I think it’d be a good tactic going forward to point this out.

It's what happens when you win. You become the default, common sense. The more you win, the more it becomes the default, the more you win.