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The 2019 General Election

Yep, agree with many that Ford could have said that just because numbers of Lab voters live in Leave voting areas does not necessarily mean that they were Leave or Leave enough to change their tribal loyalty.
Or he could have said 'ecological fallacy', which says all of that in two words. It's not that much of an imposition to look up terms you aren't familiar with is it?
 
Or he could have said 'ecological fallacy', which says all of that in two words. It's not that much of an imposition to look up terms you aren't familiar with is it?
Well, we've managed to cover it all ways now.
:)
Anyways, the psephological point being made seems to me to be significant and, potentially, makes the Farage announcement quite an important moment in the early campaign.
 
I'm not sure whether the Brexit Party being in the mix is a gift to Labour - UKIP standing aside in loads of seats in 2017 seemed to actually hurt the tory vote in those seats.

Speaking of UKIP, I wonder what those crypto-fascists and sex offenders are going to do this election under the leadership of Dick Braine? I wonder if they'll stand any candidates or if they'd rather lose money in other ways.
 
Speaking of UKIP, I wonder what those crypto-fascists and sex offenders are going to do this election under the leadership of Dick Braine? I wonder if they'll stand any candidates or if they'd rather lose money in other ways.
Braine resigned last week, I don't think they're doing anything much.
 
Speaking of UKIP, I wonder what those crypto-fascists and sex offenders are going to do this election under the leadership of Dick Braine? I wonder if they'll stand any candidates or if they'd rather lose money in other ways.

He just quit didn't he? Who can keep track.
 
Speaking of UKIP, I wonder what those crypto-fascists and sex offenders are going to do this election under the leadership of Dick Braine? I wonder if they'll stand any candidates or if they'd rather lose money in other ways.

Hasn't Dick Brain just jacked it in?

Keeping track of the UKIP leader is pretty tricky - and probably not worth it tbf.


ETA: Ah dammit. Shouldn't have gone for the showy second line.
 
There seems to be a belief amongst faragists that all the labour leave voters will vote Brexit party - I've heard a figure of 5m labour leave voters - all happily voting for the batshit crazy BP candidates :hmm: I have my doubts that those 5m actually want BP MPs.
 
They claim there's a rigorous vetting process - the candidates have all stumped up a fair wedge of cash to pay for it in fact...
Which is an interesting point; makes you wonder if there were legal consequences to any strategy that might have involved significant numbers of BP PPCs being told to stand down?
 
I don't think they've been stood up yet in most (any?) cases, so I doubt it.
No, the official nomination deadline is still someway off, but I was speculating about their internal processes and considerations...particularly as they seem to operate like a business. Wouldn't mind betting that their lawyers had something to say about the prospect of standing down folk who'd already paid handsomely and 'entered into a contract' with the business.
 
No, the official nomination deadline is still someway off, but I was speculating about their internal processes and considerations...particularly as they seem to operate like a business. Wouldn't mind betting that their lawyers had something to say about the prospect of standing down folk who'd already paid handsomely and 'entered into a contract' with the business.
november 14 apparently
 
No, the official nomination deadline is still someway off, but I was speculating about their internal processes and considerations...particularly as they seem to operate like a business. Wouldn't mind betting that their lawyers had something to say about the prospect of standing down folk who'd already paid handsomely and 'entered into a contract' with the business.
They haven't paid handsomely for a guaranteed seat to run in though - only to be considered.
 
Anybody looking at odds? I only bet on big political events nowadays, might stick a few quid on hung with same balance of power (tories need DUP)

Best you'll get on a hung parliament is 11/10, and most bookies not even that. I got 9/2 on a Tory minority govt this morning though.

Since Farage's announcement I was tempted by Labour as largest party, but since Farage's announcement that's gone from 7/1 to 5/1.
 
I doubt the BPs vetting process will be any better than UKIP's, so a good few dv cases, a solid phalanx of facebook racists along with a smattering of Paul Nuttall level weirdos and fantasists.

The MEPs were a lot saner than past UKIP fruit loops (not saying much) but there's going to be a lot more MPs than those so we'll have exciting reveals to look forward to.
 
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