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The 2017 General Election campaign

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History doesn't happen all at once. The whole histories of all labour movements around the world show precisely that... and more: it's sometimes forwards and others backwards.
How strange that for so much of the past quarter century in e.g. hackney, haringey, islington, camden, lambeth etc it has been the labour council shitting on the people. At some point the exception becomes the rule: and it's not as tho history has much positive to say about national labour governments of the past 50 years either, the three there've been.
 
I'm not "man enough to admit what"? That I hadn't seen the debate? I prefaced my first post on the matter with that caveat. I further said this had "apparently" happened. So perhaps you can apply your forensic truthiness to that.

However, I note you still aren't pointing out where it says in the Times report that Dugdale said what Sturgeon said she said.

And that's the point I was making: it's one person's word against another's.

Of course, you're completely ignoring that. Because it's a mild criticism of Sturgeon. And you don't like that.
Absolute crap from start to finish. I was talking about your 'immediate and categoric denial' from the (current) labour leader Dugdale.

tbf...had a little chortle when vp jumped in and called me a cunt though.
 
Absolute crap from start to finish. I was talking about your 'immediate and categoric denial' from the (current) labour leader Dugdale.

tbf...had a little chortle when vp jumped in and called me a cunt though.
Yes, that's what the reports said. But like my first post on the matter said: I hadn't seen it. And I used the word "apparently" to reinforce the fact I was commenting second hand.

I found VP's comments most perspicacious, though, given the way you have completely avoided anything put to you.

The record stands. Anyone reading the thread in order can see very well what's been said. I'm satisfied with that.
 
How strange that for so much of the past quarter century in e.g. hackney, haringey, islington, camden, lambeth etc it has been the labour council shitting on the people. At some point the exception becomes the rule: and it's not as tho history has much positive to say about national labour governments of the past 50 years either, the three there've been.
Fine. You can keep the bike.
 
Had a very depressing evening in my local social club (ex "workingman's club"). Telly was on and almost everyone was cheering Teresa May and slagging off Corbyn . I heard comments like "God help the country if Corbyn gets in", "terrorist lover" and that kind of crap. It seemed as though they'd swallowed the Sun and Mail headlines completely.

Went home feeling very fed up.
 
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