The 2017 General Election campaign

[killer b]

UKIP are dead, they won't benefit. Difficult to say at this point who will... all sides will go in hard tho. They have to.

 

[billy_bob]

Tories won't see it as stooping low. They really believe they're protecting the country from dangerous communists.

Some of the really pigshit-thick ones and the insane ideologues, maybe. I don't think May is either of those things. If she says it, I'd see it as a calculated move.

 

[chilango]

FFS.

My mother has her own ideosyncracies. (In her case, late oneset homophobia. This from someone who was a socially liberal socialist and feminist in my youth).

Worse, my mother was a Liberal Party activist/candidate in the 70s, but left because they've gone "too far left" as the Lib Dems

 

[Pickman's model]

Worse, my mother was a Liberal Party activist/candidate in the 70s, but left because they've gone "too far left" as the Lib Dems

(((((chilango))))) the shame must be almost too much to bear

 

[Cid]

In terms of policy though is there any real difference between the two parties on what you might broadly call "national security"?

I don't think Labour is advocating the imposition of a er... Maydrian's firewall.

 

[gawkrodger]

There's a real possibility May's bullshit speech today is going to backfire. Fingers crossed. If I was Corbyn et al I'd go in hard on it

 

[MightyTibberton]

I had a quick look and Labour's main proposal is a review of the Prevent strategy. The 10,000 more police officers will look good and I expect they'll mention it a lot this week.

May's been Home Sec for years - she's been directly in charge of anti-terror policy even before she became PM. (And, I hate to say it but I'm kinda quoting Nigel Farage there!)

 

[maomao]

Worse, my mother was a Liberal Party activist/candidate in the 70s, but left because they've gone "too far left" as the Lib Dems

I was brought up in the SWP. I get jealous of people with nice straightforwardly right wing parents. My family have arguments about things like whether giving a child's leprechaun doll is racist or not

 

[Cid]

I had a quick look and Labour's main proposal is a review of the Prevent strategy. The 10,000 more police officers will look good and I expect they'll mention it a lot this week.

May's been Home Sec for years - she's been directly in charge of anti-terror policy even before she became PM. (And, I hate to say it but I'm kinda quoting Nigel Farage there!)

She was the longest serving home sec for 60 years... 2010-2016 (after which she became PM of course).

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

#Saudiarabia trending on twitter at fucking last.

 

[bi0boy]

#Saudiarabia trending on twitter at fucking last.

You know default twitter trends are personally tailored based on who you follow and what you search for?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

You know default twitter trends are personally tailored based on who you follow and what you search for?

Oh fuck. Well I aint searched for it, and even those I follow (yes, mostly comms/anarchs/socialists/liberals) haven't banged on about this before.

It needs to be the number one issue this week for the sake of our security. There's far more to it than Saudi, but I think it's the obvious starting point.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

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[magneze]

I had a quick look and Labour's main proposal is a review of the Prevent strategy. The 10,000 more police officers will look good and I expect they'll mention it a lot this week.

May's been Home Sec for years - she's been directly in charge of anti-terror policy even before she became PM. (And, I hate to say it but I'm kinda quoting Nigel Farage there!)

I can't see how the Tories can say that Corbyn isn't going to protect the country. This is the third attack under May's watch, she's hardly keeping it safe is she?

 

[agricola]

I can't see how the Tories can say that Corbyn isn't going to protect the country. This is the third attack under May's watch, she's hardly keeping it safe is she?

Yes, but he wouldn't nuke Iran.

 

[MightyTibberton]

They'll link it with immigration and free movement of people in the Brexit negotiations.

 

[killer b]

#Saudiarabia trending on twitter at fucking last.

At last!

 

[bemused]

I can't see how the Tories can say that Corbyn isn't going to protect the country. This is the third attack under May's watch, she's hardly keeping it safe is she?

Security is Corbyn's biggest weakness. Any question about the use of force he can't give a straght anwer. Whilst being a pasfist is a perfectly respectable position to hold I think people would be a bit silly if they didn't recognise that when discussing national security you have to be prepared to say you would authorise deadly force. Jeremy as of yet hasn't done that.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Security is Corbyn's biggest weakness.

True, but at least he wasn't Home Sec when LIFG were being allowed to carry out massacres by MI5.

May can so easily and legitimately be "swift boated" on this one.

 

[chilango]

(((((chilango))))) the shame must be almost too much to bear

I think the shame is mutual

 

[DownwardDog]

#Saudiarabia trending on twitter at fucking last.

The marble halls of Riyadh's palaces ring with screams of panic.

 

[chilango]

I was brought up in the SWP. I get jealous of people with nice straightforwardly right wing parents. My family have arguments about things like whether giving a child's leprechaun doll is racist or not

Worst of both worlds having a Liberal. No war toys as kid coupled with free market fundamentalism at the dinner table.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

The marble halls of Riyadh's palaces ring with screams of panic.

It's a bit more complicated than 'Saudis are bad, more police are good' I suspect.

Nonetheless, I think the government should be challenged on a number of security issues, given who was Home Secretary for the last half-decade and given the actions of successive governments including those of Cameron/May in turning a large part of the Middle East into a very large Jihadi LARP zone etc.

 

[danny la rouge]

I was brought up in the SWP. I get jealous of people with nice straightforwardly right wing parents. My family have arguments about things like whether giving a child's leprechaun doll is racist or not

I'm of Irish descent, so I can tell them "no" if you want.

 

[maomao]

I'm of Irish descent, so I can tell them "no" if you want.

Even my mum (also of Irish decent) knew that one was bullshit.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

 

[Pickman's model]

they're not so happy to have her there, from their expressions

 

[Mr.Bishie]

they're not so happy to have her there, from their expressions

Cos she's a 'bloody difficult' woman?

 

[elbows]

Has this been posted before?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

And there's more...
'Sensitive' UK terror funding inquiry may never be published