The 2017 General Election campaign
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mojo pixy
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He didn't go to public school, that would explain why his party don't like him.
Ironically the one thing about him that most people do like...
Raheem
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He did go to public school, according to Wikipedia at least.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
this negotiating for parties to stand aside to attempt to beat the tories thing seems to be harder to make happen than it looks even when all sides want it to happen.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Do all sides want it to happen?
Have you offered to stand down your candidate?
Have you offered to stand down your candidate?
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
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Not sure about skwalkbox either, but David Hencke is now running with this for what that's worth.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
All sides don't want 'it' to happen, all sides just want other parties to stand aside for them.
The template is familiar - it's a re-run of the Labour party a coalition offer to the LibDems in 2010: Gordon Brown gives Nick Clegg a copy of the Labour manifesto and says 'sign up for that and you can come into government' - it's a complete failure on all sides to understand that, remarkably enough, different political parties have very different views, and that infact 'not being the Tories' is not the only thing they exist for.
jakethesnake
In bed for Britain
Plus they all want and need to be seen as national parties, which necessitates standing candidates in every seat regardless of whether they are winnable or not.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Not this 'rainbow alliance', 'progressive coalition' again. How did that go in 2010 again? Are you voting Green or Lib Dem this time?
Green candidate stands down in marginal Ilford North and calls on Lib Dems to do the same
2015:
Wes Streeting (L) 21,463 43.9 +9.6
Lee Scott (C) 20,874 42.7 −3.1
Philip Hyde (UKIP) 4,355 8.9 +7.0
Richard Clare (LD) 1,130 2.3 −10.4
David Reynolds (G) 1,023 2.1 +0.9
Doris Osen (Ind) 87 0.2 N/A
Ilford North includes Barkingside and Hainault. Swing seat that goes mostly the Tories' way - Tory 1954-74 and again 1978-97. Went back to the Tories in 2005 and regained by Labour last time out on the back of the Lib Dem collapse. Large Jewish vote there - Streeting has been a critic of Corbyn especially over anti-semitism
2015:
Wes Streeting (L) 21,463 43.9 +9.6
Lee Scott (C) 20,874 42.7 −3.1
Philip Hyde (UKIP) 4,355 8.9 +7.0
Richard Clare (LD) 1,130 2.3 −10.4
David Reynolds (G) 1,023 2.1 +0.9
Doris Osen (Ind) 87 0.2 N/A
Ilford North includes Barkingside and Hainault. Swing seat that goes mostly the Tories' way - Tory 1954-74 and again 1978-97. Went back to the Tories in 2005 and regained by Labour last time out on the back of the Lib Dem collapse. Large Jewish vote there - Streeting has been a critic of Corbyn especially over anti-semitism
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stethoscope
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Are the Lib Dems standing down too? What happens if the Green vote simply transfers to Lib Dems? Some of the UKIP vote transfers to Tory? And Labour stay where they are?
Although it comes from a place of trying to oust the Tories, it's shit liberal politics in the end. To effectively overturn the Tories, we've got to get beyond three 'least worst' neoliberal parties.
Although it comes from a place of trying to oust the Tories, it's shit liberal politics in the end. To effectively overturn the Tories, we've got to get beyond three 'least worst' neoliberal parties.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
'And then I'll say to Austria - "form an alliance with the Crown. . . not the king. . . just . . . the Crown". They may mock me now, but when the history of this past era is written they will mark my name well'.Anyone else automatically read this in the voice of Emperor Palpatine?
Dunno and tend to agree. Just sticking it in for info really
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh? Where have the tories said "Yeh go ahead, bring it on" or similar?
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
Agree. There's no doubt the 'anything but the Tories' motive is a strong one if you grew up or came of age under Thatcher, and as a pragmatist part of me's tempted by the feeling that even 'marginally less evil' is better than nothing. If you're being stamped on with hob-nailed boots you might be at least slightly relieved if the stamper offered to wear trainers instead. But as I get older and take a longer view it looks like false mitigation - a little respite now but saving up a whole load more shit for later. A big part of 1997 was 'anything but the Tories' and look where that got us.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
we really do need that GE comedy thread.
i think she's on the Daily Politics today, so we'll see if she does better - or if she develops a migrane #prayfordiane...
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I voted Green last time, I'm likely to vote Green this time. BUT there is no way in hell that if the Green stood aside I'd vote Lib Dem. None at all. I bet I'm not the only one.
Equally, should this "progressive alliance" start to gather pace and the Greens stand aside for Lib Dems (and vice versa) elsewhere, then that's enough to lose the Greens my vote.
It's arrogant, insulting nonsense, and isn't going down well with anyone I've spoken to.
Equally, should this "progressive alliance" start to gather pace and the Greens stand aside for Lib Dems (and vice versa) elsewhere, then that's enough to lose the Greens my vote.
It's arrogant, insulting nonsense, and isn't going down well with anyone I've spoken to.
mojo pixy
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Which public school did he go to?
I've only ever heard that he went to ''private'' school (which isn't necessarily the same)
red & green
Well-Known Member
Nice diversion for the media from the junker meeting leak
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
He went to a state school then got a scholarship to Robert Gordon College
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
Abbott is always about as good as a 9-year-old at brazening out something she obviously doesn't know.
billy_bob
Air of bewilderment model's own
The worst kind: he managed to escape, and that's why he's better than us.
bi0boy
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Why would they need a diversion from that? There's plenty for them to get their teeth into e.g. Revealed: How EU has been secretly plotting to block Theresa May over EU migrants for weeks
Raheem
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It's a good thing they have these scholarships, or else what would become of the children of mere factory owners?
bi0boy
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Do they have anyone left who can do a live radio or TV interview?
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Artaxerxes
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
That was every bit as bad the Natalie Bennett interview. Don't know whether it represents Abbot herself fucking up/not being prepared, or whether the party itself hasn't got 'robust' numbers for the police proposals? Ominshables.
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