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The 2017 General Election campaign

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I don't feel like this is "going" down the pan material, but it's a pretty impressive display of the "we know we can't urge our readers to vote Tory or Lib Dem because we're supposed to be the left paper, but we just hate Labour so much we can't stop front-paging negative stuff about them" thing they've had going on since May announced the election.

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Why would they need a diversion from that? There's plenty for them to get their teeth into e.g. Revealed: How EU has been secretly plotting to block Theresa May over EU migrants for weeks

Hardly surprising it would be 'secret'. I thought the Tory rags applauded May for keeping her cards close to her chest. If the EU does then that's just tricky shit according to the papers.

What are the UK's proposed guarantees to EU citizens? Are they the same as the rights they have now or just to reside as current non EU nationals do? This is more the sticking point than just tactics.
 
Anyone else automatically read this in the voice of Emperor Palpatine? :hmm:

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I don't know what's real anymore!

This is madness
 
I voted Green last time, I'm likely to vote Green this time. BUT there is no way in hell that if the Green stood aside I'd vote Lib Dem. None at all. I bet I'm not the only one.

Equally, should this "progressive alliance" start to gather pace and the Greens stand aside for Lib Dems (and vice versa) elsewhere, then that's enough to lose the Greens my vote.

It's arrogant, insulting nonsense, and isn't going down well with anyone I've spoken to.
Already happened in Brighton Kemptown hasn't it? Which I thought was a Labour target and the GP standing aside there far more likely to benefit Labour anyway surely
 
Already happened in Brighton Kemptown hasn't it? Which I thought was a Labour target and the GP standing aside there far more likely to benefit Labour anyway surely

I think its happening in a few places, but seems a bit haphazard at present.

Which isn't any better.

Meh. Not really any skin off my nose. Daft on their part though.
 
That was every bit as bad the Natalie Bennett interview. Don't know whether it represents Abbot herself fucking up/not being prepared, or whether the party itself hasn't got 'robust' numbers for the police proposals? Ominshables.
She just got muddled. She said thousand when she meant million, and then gave the annual amount instead of the amount over four years (which is what is budgeted for). Either is easily done and should be easily corrected. But she got flustered and totally screwed it up.
 
I've known some very clever 9 year olds though.

Oh, mine's a clever one. I think they're the ones that politicians most resemble: they know just enough to think they know it all, and they assume they're so great that they'll just be able to bluster through anything they blatantly don't know, apparently unaware of how laughable they appear.
 
She just got muddled. She said thousand when she meant million, and then gave the annual amount instead of the amount over four years (which is what is budgeted for). Either is easily done and should be easily corrected.
You'd expect better from the SHS who must have been expecting to be questioned on the figures. You could hear her rustling through her briefing papers. What hasn't helped is every LBC show since the fuck up on Nick Ferrari this morning has been replaying it, almost on a loop.
 
You'd expect better from the SHS who must have been expecting to be questioned on the figures. You could hear her rustling through her briefing papers. What hasn't helped is every LBC show since the fuck up on Nick Ferrari this morning has been replaying it, almost on a loop.
When I hear about DA acting in her capacity as a local MP I often come away with a positive impression. Whenever she's acting in a national role I find myself holding my breath in fearful anticipation.
 
Those were the days ...you would have thought Lynton Cuntsby would have briefed her to the Pepsi Max about food

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Someone should come up with some sort of raised horizontal surface on legs that people can put cups on. A device like that would revolutionise the way we approach this awful conundrum.

Any Tory worth their salt would surely have servants - Alan Clarke wouldn't have her back to his place in any capacity. Fookin grammar school kids - no class unlike the Eton toffs.
 
Anybody else think May might come an electoral cropper with this shouty approach to the negotiations? Not as in she'll lose, but as in Labour get to keep a few seats they would have otherwise lost. It's not really about the positions she's taking, more that she's looking a bit out of her depth - playing to the gallery works to some extent, but a couple of weeks of the euromachine leaking against her won't look good. Admittedly, this is a minor issue, we're talking about something that might just be the difference between extremely bad and disastrous for Labour. But still, she's beginning to look a bit of a div.
 
Anybody else think May might come an electoral cropper with this shouty approach to the negotiations? Not as in she'll lose, but as in Labour get to keep a few seats they would have otherwise lost. It's not really about the positions she's taking, more that she's looking a bit out of her depth - playing to the gallery works to some extent, but a couple of weeks of the euromachine leaking against her won't look good. Admittedly, this is a minor issue, we're talking about something that might just be the difference between extremely bad and disastrous for Labour. But still, she's beginning to look a bit of a div.
I think it could attract some ABT voters back to Labour, from either abstaining or voting minor party.
 
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