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The 2017 General Election campaign

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I bet the UKIP manifesto is brilliant for things like this. I bet they just came up with it down the pub where the phrase 'and another thing' appeared a lot.
 
Yeah. Cos it's just him who said that, right?

What's next?

I know. Let's ignore a spokeperson for a nurses' union who says people are at risk due to cuts in the NHS cos, y'know, "nurses gonna nurse".

The two situations are clearly not analogous.
 
Yeah. Cos it's just him who said that, right?

What's next?

I know. Let's ignore a spokeperson for a nurses' union who says people are at risk due to cuts in the NHS cos, y'know, "nurses gonna nurse".

Coppers have a lot more (legal) ways to make the average person's life miserable than nurses do. Coppers are a in position of power, usually backed up by the courts. Do you not see how this unique dynamic might have a significant influence on what lobbying groups for coppers say and do?
 
Had Labour canvassers at my door tonight. Only the second time in my life I've had politicos knocking for my vote*

She asked if I was voting and who for. I said probably Labour. She asked why probably, and not definitely. And then mentioned the candidate has just left and she wishes I could've spoken to her.

I explained it was the candidate (Rachel Reeves) who's the entire reason I'm finding it hard to vote Labour, as I want a JC victory.

Not sure if the next bit was bullshit/electioneering, but she said she knows how I feel. She was embarrassed to be out campaigning for RR, but it was worth doing to ensure JC has the biggest mandate/seats/whatever. She mentioned that the CLP had basically forced RR to shut up, and not brief against JC, or say much at all noteworthy in public or on record. Just keep her mouth shut and they'll do everything they can for her.

The best line was, "and to be fair, she's not briefed against him this year!" :D

She seemed like a good sort, though, so I got the feeling she wasn't lying about her true feelings on JC/RR. She was pretty upbeat in general. Lots of positive feelings coming across.

I lied and said I'm now 99.9% voting Labour to make her feel better, and thanked her for the chat.

*Last time it was also Labour and I told them to fuck off.
 
Not sure if the next bit was bullshit/electioneering, but she said she knows how I feel. She was embarrassed to be out campaigning for RR, but it was worth doing to ensure JC has the biggest mandate/seats/whatever. She mentioned that the CLP had basically forced RR to shut up, and not brief against JC, or say much at all noteworthy in public or on record. Just keep her mouth shut and they'll do everything they can for her.

The best line was, "and to be fair, she's not briefed against him this year!" :D

She seemed like a good sort, though, so I got the feeling she wasn't lying about her true feelings on JC/RR. She was pretty upbeat in general. Lots of positive feelings coming across.
That sounds like my mate who's in Labour in that constituency, and there's certainly a contingent who were intending to attempt to force her out before this snap election made that impossible.

I was a bit taken aback by the strength of their rants against her, though tbf drinks had been drunk. I'd decided that I couldn't be a member of a party if it would mean campaigning for someone like her.
 
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From Rachel Reeves' Twitter account.:D
 
Had Labour canvassers at my door tonight. Only the second time in my life I've had politicos knocking for my vote*

She asked if I was voting and who for. I said probably Labour. She asked why probably, and not definitely. And then mentioned the candidate has just left and she wishes I could've spoken to her.

I explained it was the candidate (Rachel Reeves) who's the entire reason I'm finding it hard to vote Labour, as I want a JC victory.

Not sure if the next bit was bullshit/electioneering, but she said she knows how I feel. She was embarrassed to be out campaigning for RR, but it was worth doing to ensure JC has the biggest mandate/seats/whatever. She mentioned that the CLP had basically forced RR to shut up, and not brief against JC, or say much at all noteworthy in public or on record. Just keep her mouth shut and they'll do everything they can for her.

The best line was, "and to be fair, she's not briefed against him this year!" :D

She seemed like a good sort, though, so I got the feeling she wasn't lying about her true feelings on JC/RR. She was pretty upbeat in general. Lots of positive feelings coming across.

I lied and said I'm now 99.9% voting Labour to make her feel better, and thanked her for the chat.

*Last time it was also Labour and I told them to fuck off.

Pretty much everyone out there door knocking and doing the hard work are either fully paid up Momentum members and Corbyn supporters. The Blairites are nowhere to be seen.
 
Pretty much everyone out there door knocking and doing the hard work are either fully paid up Momentum members and Corbyn supporters. The Blairites are nowhere to be seen.

I think it's quite apparent that the Blairites would prefer to see a May victory. Obviously the individual MP's don't want to lose their seat but they clearly find the concept of a Corbyn win horrifying.
 
I think it's quite apparent that the Blairites would prefer to see a May victory. Obviously the individual MP's don't want to lose their seat but they clearly find the concept of a Corbyn win horrifying.

Take a look over at DailyMailwatch forum and you will find quite a number of Labour moderate members that used to knock and dorrs etc. and constantly complained that new members did nothing to help. They now say that they refuse to knock on any doors, talk of voting LibDem and post stuff about how shit Corbyn is.
 
Whats the choice? - and getting the labour vote share as high as possible will make a big difference with the post election shenanigans in the PLP.
I guess your choice is the same as mine. If my spideysenses tell me Umuna will get in comfortably, which they do, I can safely either vote Green, or Socialistsomethingorother party or spoil. So that a nationally increased Labour vote is mirrored by a clear shunning of the previous big cheeses. If, otoh, it's in doubt then the default keep the tories out instincts take over.

I don't want Umuna at all, but I want a tory even less.
 
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