emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
I can see why everyone else would be blaming her. What I don't get is why she seems to blaming herself.
Star Trek: Discovery
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Or is it meant to show a sense of shame at breaking the chain of command? But then on the Discovery that attribute will stand her in good stead what with a weirdo captain and eyes.
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
Yeah, I hope they don't overplay that angle. It would be nice if they could've fully embraced Roddenberry's original vision of a future with a united Earth where racial tensions are a thing of the past, rather than thinking a strong, female black character has to be balanced with a ditsy, annoying white one. I'm not at all sure this "odd couple" dynamic is going to work, it feels too much of a concession to those who might have a problem with a powerful black character in the show.
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
nah its to lighten the tone a bit. See also: the spat with that dickhead alien.
otherwise it'd be too grimdark. None of the characters have been drawn with the depth of BSG. They got away with a dark tone on BSG- nay more than got away, made it work really well because the characters seemed realer. They had time tos where they laughed, gambled and fought over petty bullshit.
so far at the mo you've got this starfleet vessel stuffed with wrong uns and ex cons, a captain who may as well be called Ahab. You need the light relief
otherwise it'd be too grimdark. None of the characters have been drawn with the depth of BSG. They got away with a dark tone on BSG- nay more than got away, made it work really well because the characters seemed realer. They had time tos where they laughed, gambled and fought over petty bullshit.
so far at the mo you've got this starfleet vessel stuffed with wrong uns and ex cons, a captain who may as well be called Ahab. You need the light relief
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
Maybe, but I think they could learn a lot from BSG. It was undoubtedly dark & moody, but as a result the characters were really powerful & it was easy to feel invested in their fates. I know it's early days, but I've yet to feel much connection to any of the new ST characters. I want to feel like I'm really rooting for Michael because she's the main character & the underdog, but I'm not quite feeling it just yet. Tilly should go home & take up knitting.
donkyboy
Crazy Cat/Fox man
explain, please.
She first warned them of the klingons. then forced them to show themselves by pretending to fire. She warned the crew all the klingons houses had arrived to unite. And to prove it all, the klingons attacked first. Mikey was right all along. I don't buy this mutineer nonsense.
donkyboy
Crazy Cat/Fox man
yeah. that felt out of place. and what was the point of the klingon coming out of the dark shhhhing and sacrificing himself?
And how did this men in black creature which is just a giant lice contort that dead federation blokes face like that?
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Yes, but the exact nature of the events isn't really know to most people, and she doesn't seem to be bothering to try and explain that she was right all along.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
My understanding was that the disfiguration didn't come from the creature but the spacey-wacey experiments going all wibbly-wobbly.
Quite where the creature came from and how it got on board the Discovery, I'm not quite clear
<edit: oh, and I agree about the whole misunderstood mutineering motivations thing. I really hate plot points that revolve around people either not explaining or understanding the situation properly
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DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
You mean the bit where the shuttle is attacked by alien bugs and gets rescued by a ship that is experimenting on aliens and bugs? That just happens to be near? And the captain just happens to want Michael's expertise?
When I watched it (the whole episode) I thought Lorca planned the whole thing.
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
Yeah how'd he manage to wrangle that one? How did he organise a prisoner transfer that just happened to go through the area of space with bugs in it? And wouldn't a prison transfer ship have more than one crew member? As script writing goes it was cheap... would've preferred a more intelligent plotline that led to Michael ending up on the Discovery.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
By putting the bugs there. Anyway, I just thought he set the whole thing up.
T & P
|-o-| (-o-) |-o-|
Liking it so far. I knew nothing about the story/ themes before I started watching it and was pleasingly surprised with the more intricate plot. A bit of a departure from the usual wholesomeness one could have expected. Good to see a bit of blood too. Previous ST crews seemed to be immune to bleeding.
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
I agree that they're more alien & fearsome than the rather lame human-with-funny-head look of Worf, but I'm not a massive fan. To me eye it looks like they're all wearing really thick makeup, which of course they are, but it shouldn't look that way...
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
*puts on nerd bunny hat*
thats one thing i've been asking myself will this series stick to the canon and show the Klingon augment virus...
to explain the klingons in the prime universe
*never mind just checked Canon
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Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
I bet somewhere down the line some parent will try to be cool and smart and name their daughter, Michael...
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Her parents called her Marie though
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
A space tardigrade navigating using mushroom spores? OK, well, I suppose it's about as scientific as "reconfiguring the inverse-pion resonance flume" that old Trek relied on far too much.
Other than that, this is fun. Could maybe do with a bit less Klingon dialogue though.
Other than that, this is fun. Could maybe do with a bit less Klingon dialogue though.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
why? if war with Klingons is going to be a major part of the plot, surely we need to hear/read them speak,so we know what they're thinking?
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I don't think its possible to get much actorly skills through all the prosthetics. I have 4 queued up for later, maybe they will grow on me
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