Looking forward to seeing kids in the streets tomorrow, it's weird at the moment, and even more to exercise outside in May, if there are no setbacks. One step at a time.
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Everybody ok?
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dessiato
4 years and I still cry sometimes
There’s been kids outside today, all wearing masks.
They're picking up plastic visors from the Red Cross and the tourist office. It's been rainy today so I expect they'll be out tomorrow, all looking like welders.
People are also going to be allowed to visit their allotments, which is important for the summer for some people.
So slowly and carefully we may be seeing some more 'normality' as time goes on. No Wine Battle this year and precious little tourism even if it's allowed at all. And I wonder if the environment of an open-air swimming pool with half the village there is good for transmitting a virus, or safe because of hot surfaces and chlorinated water. Probably a bad idea. It'll be odd without all the things that mean 'summer'.
I may have to find a section of river away from people and imitate a hippo.
Not promising
dessiato
4 years and I still cry sometimes
Spain’s deescalation measures – what we know so far
Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez announced that the return to a “new normality” would involve a series of phases, with no set dates and differing from province to province if necessary
Light at the end of the tunnel.
dessiato
4 years and I still cry sometimes
Light goes on,
english.elpais.com
Spain allocates time slots for outdoor activity
Health Minister Salvador Illa explains the conditions under which adults may go out for walks and other exercise starting this weekend
Could be a lot of piss-taking though. Imagine you go out for your own exercise before 10.00, then you take your aged mother out till 12.00, then your kids, then you go shopping, then to your allotment. You're never home!
dessiato
4 years and I still cry sometimes
Where can I get a kid, and old lady?
Johnny Doe
Well-Known Member
Down the allotments apparently
dessiato
4 years and I still cry sometimes
There aren't any here, but if I could go to Alcarrechela I know where there's some. If I sneak out tonight...no headlights, back roads through the olive groves...
Johnny Doe
Well-Known Member
Olive Groves? I think she's in the room next to Grandma Smiles at The Autumns Dreams Care Home for Upwardly Mobile Octogenarians
dessiato
4 years and I still cry sometimes
It's too busy here. There's lots without masks. And too many not wearing masks properly. I especially dislike the people who use them as chin warmers. Those only covering their mouth are bad enough, but what's the point in having one if all you do is wear it round your chin?
I fear there's a second wave coming sooner rather then later.
dessiato
4 years and I still cry sometimes
The security guard at our Carrefour makes glove wearers sanitise their gloves before going in. I've seen him absolutely insist when people have tried to argue over it.
I feel sorry for the trolley cleaner there. He's in full coverall, including head, mask and face shield, and gloves. Outside, in Andalucía heat, all day... I sweat just watching him.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
My partner was telling that this notorious torturer from Francos time has died.
english.elpais.com
Managed to stay free even after transition to democracy. She said a lot of Franco supporters in police / security kept their jobs after Franco died.
He was doing this in later Franco period. Shows how appalling Franco regime was for a lot of Spaniards.
Notorious Franco-era cop ‘Billy the Kid’ dies from coronavirus
Antonio González Pacheco, a police officer accused of torturing hundreds of victims under the Spanish dictatorship, passed away at the age of 73
Managed to stay free even after transition to democracy. She said a lot of Franco supporters in police / security kept their jobs after Franco died.
He was doing this in later Franco period. Shows how appalling Franco regime was for a lot of Spaniards.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
My partner not sorry he is dead. But thinks it would have been better if he had been put in court so the people he tortured could have justice. The Pact of Silence has meant people like him, and he is only the worst of the worst, walked free after Franco died. With a decent pension.
Article partner gave me. It describes one womans torture by Billy the Kid:
Billy el Niño, mientras torturaba a Lidia Falcón: "Ya no parirás más, puta"
La abogada y escritora feminista se adhiere a la Querella Argentina con una denuncia en la que describe las torturas sufridas en la Dirección General de Seguridad.
www.publico.es
The torture isnt been done to solve anything. She is let go in the end. Its part and parcel of Francoism. Brutality was integral to it. Creates fear. I can see why my partner is so anti the parties of the right and centre right in Spain. The Peoples Party was set up by ex Francoists.
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JHE
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Apparently, it is going to be made compulsory to wear a mask in public places. (It is already compulsory on public transport - at least in Madrid, and I imagine elsewhere.)
In general, I think this is a very sensible policy, but there is an obvious catch. If the terraces etc are going to be open, how are we going to eat and drink in these places? There is no way I am going to try drinking beer through a straw, much less coffee. The policy will have to allow masklessness in certain circumstances.
Every time I see pics or vids of what's going on in Britain, which is quite often at the mo, it seems that most people are not wearing masks in public places. I don't understand why not.
In general, I think this is a very sensible policy, but there is an obvious catch. If the terraces etc are going to be open, how are we going to eat and drink in these places? There is no way I am going to try drinking beer through a straw, much less coffee. The policy will have to allow masklessness in certain circumstances.
Every time I see pics or vids of what's going on in Britain, which is quite often at the mo, it seems that most people are not wearing masks in public places. I don't understand why not.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Here in Portugal masks are compulsory in shops and public transport . The cafes and restaurants open tomorrow , there will be limits on numbers inside , talk about Perspex screens inside , tables outside socially distanced and limits of numbers in table but as yet no masks necessary. Some might just stick with takeaways , some won’t have the money to make alterations and might be better for the moment on the business assistance and remaining closed . I’ll have a gander tomoz and see what’s what .
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Lavapies has been wonderful. It's so densely populated that there have still been people and noise, but also a sense of atmosphere within the space that's been created by the lockdown. When quarantine ends it will be impossible to sleep (as usual) as hundreds of people walk around pissed until 7am. The streets don't smell of piss for once either.
There were some wonderful things going on the balconies this weekend. San Isidro plays being done across floors of buildings for the public to see. Parties , shouts of "¡Vivan los servicios públicos!" and a long stretch of Calle Segovia singing 'All You Need is Love".
If we can just nuke Barrio Salamanca., most of the rest of the city is nice. Barrio Salamanca isn't even any good at being posh. It looks like Bet Gilroy after a lottery win.
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Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Nice article linked to in Público, easily the best Spanish newspaper, in which they sent a journalist to Barrio Salamanca to watch the cunt parade. Just four kilometres away from Lavapiés or Vallecas but also another planet 20 light years away.
Article in Spanish.
El Pais in English might have something on this if you only speak guiri.
Article in Spanish.
El Pais in English might have something on this if you only speak guiri.
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Ta that was an interesting read (via Google translate) .Nice article linked to in Público, easily the best Spanish newspaper, in which they sent a journalist to Barrio Salamanca to watch the cunt parade. Just four kilometres away from Lavapíes or Vallecas but also another planet 20 light years away.
Article in Spanish.
El Pais in English might have something on this if you only speak guiri.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Nice article linked to in Público, easily the best Spanish newspaper, in which they sent a journalist to Barrio Salamanca to watch the cunt parade. Just four kilometres away from Lavapiés or Vallecas but also another planet 20 light years away.
Article in Spanish.
El Pais in English might have something on this if you only speak guiri.
My partner family come from Vallecas. She said to me she was chatting to mother today who was complaining about these demos.
They are all from people of the Right. Regard any slight left government as illegitimate. They are all the better off people.
Whatever PSOE/ Podemos do they think these partys should not be in power.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
This demo in Madrid by VOX. Also took place in other cities.
english.elpais.com
Protestors take to Spanish streets in vehicles, at anti-government marches organized by far-right Vox
The route of the protest was brought to a standstill in Madrid, as motorists and passengers waved Spanish flags and cars honked their horns
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