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I follow some antifascist Spanish accounts on twitter and something is going on over there recently and I wondered if anyone can explain it better? Only some tweets can be translated and even then translations are ropey. Lots of videos of cops beating people in the streets and nazis marching without any police presence at all. I'll try to put some tweets here but I'm shit at it...







Most of the tweets I see are via Miquel Ramos
 
What the fuck. Completely open neo nazis are fine in spain?



She's the daughter of a former PP leader who has thrown her out of the house for being a fascist. She also doesn't seem to have caught much attention after that rally, which was in February.

But sure, fascism won't go away in Spain. The history runs too deep, and too recent.

If it's any consolation my niece is a kind of counter to that. 16 and gives speeches at IWD etc in Barcelona. Doesn't get quite as much media attention.
 
I've been watching Pere Portabella on Mubi. Not well known here but important film maker from Spain.

He made this documentary near the end of the Franco regime. Franco had died and the country was moving to some form of democracy. Talks with leading political figures from monarchists to communists. Between this an actor gives a short history of Francoism.

Spain at the time was in process of change and nothing had been decided. So the film is documenting history as its made. All the more powerful for that.

It can also be seen as not purely about Spain. Its a discussion of what is democracy. Everything from direct democracy, dictatorship of the proletariat to representative democracy. Also for Spain whether centrised state or federal state is best. The issues of nationalities come up a lot. He interviews ETA and Catalan nationalists.

For Spain the Civil War was traumatic. One bit of film he has two exiles talk of returning to Spain.

My partner says in Spain when Franco died half the country celebrated the other half thought about getting there money out of the country.

One of the themes in the film was the possibility of Francoism without Franco. A danger that some reforms with limited democracy would happen.

The film has a young Felipe Gonzalez of the PSOE. Who would be major figure in the new Spain. The PSOE would run Spain for many years.

Its difficult for people here to imagine what a big social and cultural change this was.

 
I've been watching Pere Portabella on Mubi. Not well known here but important film maker from Spain.

He made this documentary near the end of the Franco regime. Franco had died and the country was moving to some form of democracy. Talks with leading political figures from monarchists to communists. Between this an actor gives a short history of Francoism.

Spain at the time was in process of change and nothing had been decided. So the film is documenting history as its made. All the more powerful for that.

It can also be seen as not purely about Spain. Its a discussion of what is democracy. Everything from direct democracy, dictatorship of the proletariat to representative democracy. Also for Spain whether centrised state or federal state is best. The issues of nationalities come up a lot. He interviews ETA and Catalan nationalists.

For Spain the Civil War was traumatic. One bit of film he has two exiles talk of returning to Spain.

My partner says in Spain when Franco died half the country celebrated the other half thought about getting there money out of the country.

One of the themes in the film was the possibility of Francoism without Franco. A danger that some reforms with limited democracy would happen.

The film has a young Felipe Gonzalez of the PSOE. Who would be major figure in the new Spain. The PSOE would run Spain for many years.

Its difficult for people here to imagine what a big social and cultural change this was.

I’ve lived in Spain for 8 years now, the amount of pro Franco feeling is only very slowly fading. Despite that he is, beyond any doubt, the single most powerful politician, even now, among a certain type. His influence remains even with younger Spanish people.

He is most popular with reasonably well educated people with money. Pretty much the same type who would have supported him in his life time.
 
I’ve lived in Spain for 8 years now, the amount of pro Franco feeling is only very slowly fading. Despite that he is, beyond any doubt, the single most powerful politician, even now, among a certain type. His influence remains even with younger Spanish people.

He is most popular with reasonably well educated people with money. Pretty much the same type who would have supported him in his life time.
Look at America to see how long a shadow a civil war cases. Not to mention our own British civil wars which still have relevance today
 
My partner (from Madrid) this weekend was telling me of the intimidation and abuse Pablo Iglesias had been getting from the far right as he is standing for Mayor in elections tomorrow.

Pablo stood down from government with PSOE to stand as candidate.

Carmena the popular left wing Mayor lost to the right. Who are now holding snap election.

From what my partner has been saying the PP Mayor has been in continual arguements with the PSOE/Podemos Central government over pandemic lock downs.

As in lot of Spain its still a very divided country. Pablo my partner told me has been getting hate mail at his family home.

Vox decided as a provocation to start their campaign in my partners family area Vallecas. A "red" area.

This article has some of history of area. My partners mother came from rural area to work in Madrid as maid to the wealthy. My partner says its still tightly knit working class community. The articles are to harsh on PSOE. My partners family are working class members of PSOE going back to early days of Felipe Gonzalez


This gives some of the polical background. My partner has a lot of time for Pablo as decent man.


Pablo comes from Madrid. As per usual with left they are split.

Pablo according to the article is standing partly to keep Podemos as left party in Spanish politics. Madrid is an important region symbolically. A very divided City.
 
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The question will be how well Vox do and will PP work with them if they win


Ayuso is very likely to work with them. I can't even remember the left winning the elections for the Comunidad (region). Sometimes we get a left-wing city mayor, such as the brilliant Manuela Carmena, but the suburban PP vote tends to make it very difficult region-wide.

Vox are going to do well. It's not a pretty sight. Madrid is full of Podemos posters along the lines of "Your boss will definitely vote so make sure you do" and "Let the majority speak" but I've got a bad feeling about the election - well a bad feeling based on polling.
 
Exit polls suggest that PP has won convincingly and might be just a few seats short of an overall majority. Some sort of deal with Vox is highly likely. Looks like we'll have Ayuso as president for several more years.

There's been a big increase in turnout since 2019. The left was hoping that a higher turnout would oust the right, but (unsurprisingly) the polarisation evident in recent weeks has mobilised the right as well.
 
Ayuso close to overall majority. Probably better if that happens if it keeps Vox out. Ayuso is thick as mince. People love voting for the dim.
 

The polarised politics in Spain (not necessarily a criticism) means what in this country would be seen as sensible centre the Citizens Party are going to be wiped out.

The high turnout means those of left and right who loathe each other both came out. This didn't help Pablo.

Looks like Mas Madrid have done well. Better than Podemos. May indicate regional left groups could do well.

My partner was going on about how good Monica Garcia is. Lesson for left might be popular local left candidates could do well.

As British person its interesting how "centre" politics don't work in Spain. There is a genuine choice. Both sides hate each other and that's how it is.

In this country that's not allowed. My partner was going on at me to vote in GLA / London mayor elections. I feel less than enthusiastic about it. Democracy in this country is neutered. See what happened to Corbyn.

I think democracy is alive and well in Spain unlike my own country. Proper choice means high interest and turnout.
 
The criticism from my partner is that in Spain the left are always divided. The right aren't and that means they hold power a lot.
 
Shit result, then again Madrid is quite a conservative right wing region overall so I wasnt that surprised. Depressing how resilient the bloody PP are.

Tbh, good to see Iglesias out, he's done a lot of great things but the man is a massive walking bag of ego who's lost some sense of reality. This whole Madrid debacle was evidence of this - his personal beefs with Errejón etc only further weakening the position of the left.

Mas Madrid with Unidas Podemos abstaining would have been a much grander gesture than his "no pasarán" publicity campaign. Walking off TV debate cos of Vox figure being an evil bitch... come on! But you have to give the guy credit, he is a tireless hard worker and has come a loooong way since euro elections 2014 (was in spain then and the rise of Podemos was damn exciting). I think the challenge now is to reclaim some of that excitement, that momentum, that new way of doing politics - i remmeber all the expenses for the Podemos office posted up outside every week. There was a lot of solid political community building work too.

It sucks for Madrid havibg these loons in charge and all so people can have a lockdown free caña while the death rate goes up. Hasta los huevos de esta libertad. I shit in the Mahou.
 
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It sucks for Madrid havibg these loons in charge and all so people can have a lockdown free caña while the death rate goes up. Hasta los huevos de esta libertad. I shit in the Mahou.

I think you are right to suggest that Ayuso's less stringent and more selective rules in response to Covid have helped her win votes, but it isn't just that many people like to have a beer on a terrace in the evening and (reasonably enough) think this is probably a low risk activity. There are also a lot of businesses and jobs at stake.

Two other factors: 1. The collapse of Cs, obviously. 2. The political tension, deliberately raised by the left (screaming about fascism) and the right (screaming about communists), mobilised anti-left voters even more than anti-right ones.
 
Anyone have any insight into how the governing Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (PSOE) is doing in power these days?
 
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