Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Does that say 'BBC' on the tail?
Not sure if it's on the plane or the photograph. Image rights maybe?
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Russian Long Range Bombers disrupt UK airspace
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Not sure if it's on the plane or the photograph. Image rights maybe?
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Does that say 'BBC' on the tail?
It's 'VVS' in Cyrillic. Voyenno Vozdushne Sily - Military Air Services.
2hats
Dust.
Does that say 'BBC' on the tail?
BBC России = Военно-воздушные cилы России = Russian Air Force
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2hats
Dust.
Unfortunately potentially quite disruptive to ATM, if not downright dangerous in some of the busiest skies. Hence the need to be sure where they are (ie go tag them).
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
big bomb carrying plane 
2hats
Dust.
SaskiaJayne
Rural Guerrilla
They look nice though. Have they not been totally updated with all the lastest digital computers & glass cockpits etc. Presumably its all top secret or can the west find out all the Russian military secrets nowadays?
SaskiaJayne
Rural Guerrilla
I like all the NATO reporting names for Russian aircraft like Bear, Backfire, Frogfoot & so on. Sounds all sinister & cold war.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Don't we have equipment that can pinpoint a fucking massive, noisy, metal thing, flying a few miles outside our airspace without "tagging it".
Aren't our jets just up there to tell it to play nicely?
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2hats
Dust.
Yes and yes. However once it is only a primary target (radio quiet) that's all it is. You want to ID it in order to get some handle on how it may behave subsequently and escorting it ensures that other aviation in the area are better informed as to where it is and where it is headed (with no transponder on collision avoidance would be compromised). Additionally, if the target leaves primary coverage you would otherwise not know where it was (or which it was - there were two Russian aircraft involved in the Wednesday event).
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
RAF Buchan was "downgraded and downsized" in 2004/5 - it was usually the first station to detect Russian flights over the North Sea/East Coast
If the rumours going around the sacked local staff in Peterhead are to be believed, it may have effectively gone part-time then as well, given the amount of work it took to keep the somewhat vintage systems in constant service that now fell to contractors driving-in from the South every time it karked!
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
IIRC, although its an old design, the TU-95s in service today are all reasonably modern machines (80s/90s), so presumably they have fairly up to date avionics?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
No. This is the fucking Russians we're talking about - 95% of the money assigned to upgrade Tu-95s will have disappeared to Switzerland/Dubai/Panama. Here's the cockpit of a 'modernised' Tu-95MS/Bear-H.
The cockpit workload is so high they need a flight engineer to manaully manage the fuel/hyrdraulics and a crewman dedicated to operating the Wurlitzer organ sized radio.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
No. This is the fucking Russians we're talking about - 95% of the money assigned to upgrade Tu-95s will have disappeared to Switzerland/Dubai/Panama. Here's the cockpit of a 'modernised' Tu-95MS/Bear-H.
The cockpit workload is so high they need a flight engineer to manaully manage the fuel/hyrdraulics and a crewman dedicated to operating the Wurlitzer organ sized radio.
Brighter curtains would make a big difference, imo. Not too keen on the turquoise either. Jaunty little pattern on the carpets though.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
They record the serials so they can model the Tu-95 utilisation and work out how many are operational. They will also be looking for modifications in the shape of extra antennae/radomes. I can recalled being tasked to get "as close as is necessary" to get good photos of a satcom radome on a Tu-142.
"Sorry, I can't hear your PIN"
ffsear
Well-Known Member
No. This is the fucking Russians we're talking about - 95% of the money assigned to upgrade Tu-95s will have disappeared to Switzerland/Dubai/Panama. Here's the cockpit of a 'modernised' Tu-95MS/Bear-H.
The cockpit workload is so high they need a flight engineer to manaully manage the fuel/hyrdraulics and a crewman dedicated to operating the Wurlitzer organ sized radio.
Still a thing of beauty IMO!
Surely the Russkies could foil that by repainting the serials for each mission, with an unbreakable one-time-pad code to relate the fake numbers to real IDs?
Er... patent applied for
dessiato
🇪🇸 my spirit is crying for leaving
I used to live near RAF Binbrook. It was fantastic, and noisy, when they scrambled these to intercept the Russians:
I once saw a 9 ship formation go up. Nice!
My father's cousin bought one, and two cockpit sections, when they were taken out of service. Even Jeremy Clarkson only has one.
I once saw a 9 ship formation go up. Nice!
My father's cousin bought one, and two cockpit sections, when they were taken out of service. Even Jeremy Clarkson only has one.
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
.Joking aside saw one of these proudly displayed in a lithuanian helicopter dashboard. Didn't want to point out had a better model in my pocket.
gosub
~#
I used to live near RAF Binbrook. It was fantastic, and noisy, when they scrambled these to intercept the Russians:
I once saw a 9 ship formation go up. Nice!
My father's cousin bought one, and two cockpit sections, when they were taken out of service. Even Jeremy Clarkson only has one.
My Dad "shot down" 4 in 2 minutes in RAF vs Fleet Air Arm exercises
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
why go to the effort - just wait 5 minutes and the fuel would run out!
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
It is not intimidating though it is just annoying.
http://mangafox.me/manga/flight_highschool/c006/1.html
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