Russia mobilises - consequences and reactions

[Ming]

In the long term we're all dead

May as well have some fun in the intervening period (copyright Lector).

 

[A380]

In the long term we're all dead

Never saw you as a Keynesian…

 

[RD2003]

This you?

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It's 2022, and the nuclear age. The spurious parallels with Hitler/WW2 have been debunked time and again.

 

[RD2003]

May as well have some fun in the intervening period (copyright Lector).

Unfortunately, depending on what happens, the intervening period might turn out to be just a few weeks/months.

 

[Serge Forward]

We are.

The class war?

 

[WhyLikeThis]

The class war?

Always

 

[RD2003]

Always

The class war bubbles away under the surface, and will never go away. But it finds little political expression these days, and not at all with regard to this war.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

The class war bubbles away under the surface, and will never go away. But it finds little political expression these days, and not at all with regard to this war.

I bet you’re fun at parties.

 

[RD2003]

I bet you’re fun at parties.

My parties these days are mostly late-50s cunts like me, mumbling about where it all went so fucking wrong. But still getting just as pissed as we ever did, with maybe the odd spliff somewhere out the back.

Some of us have been known to veer into privet hedges on the way home.

 

[existentialist]

The Graun wants us to surrender already.

”Western capitals should at least point out to Ukrainian leaders that their prospects of retaking all their territory may not be as bright as they hope. There is a very long way to go – their operation in Kharkiv was dramatic, but only bought them back a fraction of their territory. Whether it can be replicated for the remainder is uncertain. At a minimum, now is not the time to offer the Ukrainians advanced new weapons systems.”

Yes, Putin might use nuclear weapons. We need to plan for scenarios where he does | Christopher S Chivvis

Putin’s saber-rattling doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll deploy nukes. But he certainly could

www.theguardian.com

That's an opinion piece by one Christopher S Chivvis. I don't think we can necessarily take it as the Guardian's point of view.

And, in any case, I didn't read the "wants us to surrender" message from it. He talks about a ceasefire, but that's it.

 

[existentialist]

And all through the stupidity of those we 'choose' as our leaders. They knew from the attitude of the most western-friendly government Russia had ever had (Yeltsin's) the likely eventual Russian reaction towards expanding NATO eastwards, and continued nonetheless. They understood (or should have) the political direction of the Putin regime, which in itself came about as a reaction to western advice on the economy (which pretty much collapsed under Yeltsin), and still ploughed ahead.

It's particularly insane when you consider that NATO was formed in response to a threat which no longer existed. The USSR was history, and Russia on its knees when eastward expansion began, and no threat to any country beyond (potentially) the ex-USSR.

This is not to say (this for foaming, war-enthusiastic idiots) that Russia had to embark on its present course. But they knew it was a distinct possibility.

Ah, the standard Russian "it's the West to blame, you know..." line.

Anyway, your post isn't really relevant to the mobilisation issue, so probably wants to be in a more appropriate one...oh yes, I forgot, you shat in your own lunchbox on that one

 

[existentialist]

It would be naive to think that NATO was just sat there twiddling its thumbs, waiting for applicants.

You're right in that all this was entirely predictable. Still, many science fiction writers, and others, have long predicted that we'd have the nuclear war sometime.

They also predicted flying cars.

 

[existentialist]

Maybe, but look in the mirror, warmonger.

"No, YOU smell"

 

[Yossarian]

Ah, the standard Russian "it's the West to blame, you know..." line.

Anyway, your post isn't really relevant to the mobilisation issue, so probably wants to be in a more appropriate one...oh yes, I forgot, you shat in your own lunchbox on that one

It's the exact same dreary shit as on 20 other threads, there should be an option to toggle it off on new Ukraine threads.

 

[existentialist]

It's the exact same dreary shit as on 20 other threads, there should be an option to toggle it off on new Ukraine threads.

There is an option - it's the "ignore RD2003" option. Which is sub-optimal, as when he starts projectile diarrhoeaing all over threads, idiots like me respond, and the thread becomes incomprehensible

But yes - given the consistency of his particular type of diarrhoea, it'd make some sense just to block him from ALL Ukraine-related threads/fora. At this rate, it can only be a matter of time, anyway...

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

There is an option - it's the "ignore RD2003" option. Which is sub-optimal, as when he starts projectile diarrhoeaing all over threads, idiots like me respond, and the thread becomes incomprehensible

But yes - given the consistency of his particular type of diarrhoea, it'd make some sense just to block him from ALL Ukraine-related threads/fora. At this rate, it can only be a matter of time, anyway...

I've had him on ignore for yonks. The only person on urban that I ignore. Once in a while I look at something he's posted, just to make sense of subsequent posts, but never find it worthwhile. A risk worth taking, in my view.

 

[A380]

There is an option - it's the "ignore RD2003" option. Which is sub-optimal, as when he starts projectile diarrhoeaing all over threads, idiots like me respond, and the thread becomes incomprehensible

But yes - given the consistency of his particular type of diarrhoea, it'd make some sense just to block him from ALL Ukraine-related threads/fora. At this rate, it can only be a matter of time, anyway...

He’s 50% of my ignore list. Every now and then, when the volume of crayoning gets ridiculous, I check in to see if anything of value has been added. So far it hasn’t.

I feel it was one of my better choices on relation to this place.

 

[two sheds]

You're just warmongers

 

[ffsear]

My parties these days are mostly late-50s cunts like me, mumbling about where it all went so fucking wrong. But still getting just as pissed as we ever did, with maybe the odd spliff somewhere out the back.

When's the next one ? I'm game

 

[The39thStep]

This you?

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The group pictured in these images were supporters of America First . An organisation riddled with prominent anti semitics, Nazi sympathisers one of whom, Laura Ingalls( who became one of their main speakers ) was subsequently jailed for being a Nazi spy .

Wouldn't it be a better, more considered option to just put the poster on ignore rather than carelessly and perhaps unintentionally suggesting that the poster is anti semitic and a Nazi?

 

[Supine]

My parties these days are mostly late-50s cunts like me, mumbling about where it all went so fucking wrong. But still getting just as pissed as we ever did, with maybe the odd spliff somewhere out the back.

The back of your dacha?

 

[strung out]

The group pictured in these images were supporters of America First . An organisation riddled with prominent anti semitics, Nazi sympathisers one of whom, Laura Ingalls( who became one of their main speakers ) was subsequently jailed for being a Nazi spy .

Wouldn't it be a better, more considered option to just put the poster on ignore rather than carelessly and perhaps unintentionally suggesting that the poster is anti semitic and a Nazi?

He's a disruptive cunt, contributing nothing of value to a thread about Russian conscription and mobilisation. He clearly agrees with the spirit of the placards if not the character of those holding them.

Anyway, you're right about one thing, he's gone on ignore now.

 

[Artaxerxes]

You're just warmongers

(((Russian imperialism)))

 

[existentialist]

The group pictured in these images were supporters of America First . An organisation riddled with prominent anti semitics, Nazi sympathisers one of whom, Laura Ingalls( who became one of their main speakers ) was subsequently jailed for being a Nazi spy .

Wouldn't it be a better, more considered option to just put the poster on ignore rather than carelessly and perhaps unintentionally suggesting that the poster is anti semitic and a Nazi?

I think far more specific insinuations are made regarding his love for Putin. The rest comes along for the ride.

 

[existentialist]

He's a disruptive cunt, contributing nothing of value to a thread about Russian conscription and mobilisation. He clearly agrees with the spirit of the placards if not the character of those holding them.

Anyway, you're right about one thing, he's gone on ignore now.

The only reason he's even on this thread is because he's banned from the general Ukraine war thread, because he shat all over that one with his irrelevant wibble.

 

[The39thStep]

I think far more specific insinuations are made regarding his love for Putin. The rest comes along for the ride.

I don't read a lot of his posts tbh as the threads just descend into tiresome late night insults on both sides. However, I can't remember him expressing his love or support for Putin .

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

I don't read a lot of his posts tbh as the threads just descend into tiresome late night insults on both sides. However, I can't remember him expressing his love or support for Putin .

Innuendo, implication, whataboutery and selective silence.

 

[maomao]

I don't read a lot of his posts tbh as the threads just descend into tiresome late night insults on both sides. However, I can't remember him expressing his love or support for Putin .

I'm pretty sure he never has.

 

[LDC]

Yeah I think there's some pretty good criticisms of his posting style and content, but I wouldn't have him down as a pro-Putin type and haven't seen him express that either tbh.

 

[Sweet FA]

Before I gave up on the main thread, (which I did fairly early tbf) it seemed like he was one of the only ones not getting all feverishly gunwanky. I didn't/don't really get the pile-ons whenever he opens his gob.