Russell Brand on Revolution

[butchersapron]

It was a light hearted paraphrase from Pauline Calf: "a couple of GCSEs and she thinks she's Anne Diamond"... you just leapt on it to 'confirm' your frankly bizarre set of assumptions about what I must think

Ask yourself why anyone would think that you are the snobby person i suggest, why your subsequent defences didn't re-inforce such a reading and why you didn't use the quote? What you've done is what the people who thought Alf garnett was real and so applauded him did.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Are you mocking the Irish language?

It's Yiddish.
The only person mocking the Irish language is you.

 

[butchersapron]

I didn't say anything about " people like you". I referred to your (ie you personally) lazy and incorrect assumptions about people like me (you insist on twisting everything I say into proof of your fantasy construction.)

Marvelous - criticising you = proof of the incorrectness of the criticisms. How did you get like this?

 

[articul8]

It's hilarious to see articul8 closely guard intelligence to his chest - that's not for people outside of the bubble.

I've just said very clearly the opposite. You really can't see beyond your own narrow prejudice

 

[ViolentPanda]

Maybe you don't even realise your doing it.

And maybe you're a delicate flower with an eggshell personality, who takes any tone that isn't subservience and/or agreement to be insult.

See? Both of us can make bullshit speculations!

 

[butchersapron]

It was a light hearted paraphrase from Pauline Calf: "a couple of GCSEs and she thinks she's Anne Diamond"... you just leapt on it to 'confirm' your frankly bizarre set of assumptions about what I must think

A line written by oxbridge types btw.

 

[Ld222]

It means "how boring, more Irish".

Have you a problem with the Irish language?

 

[ViolentPanda]

On the contrary, it is where I have to point about the inaccuracy of your lazy assumptions about what people like me must mean.

Really?

 

[butchersapron]

I've just said very clearly the opposite. You really can't see beyond your own narrow prejudice

The people with intelligence but no education you talk about are now in your bubble - your bubble defines intelligence. Brand isn't in your bubble therefore he is neither intelligent nor erudite. You can no longer see society.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Have you a problem with the Irish language?

No.
Plain enough for you?

 

[Ld222]

No.
Plain enough for you?

but your calling it boring

 

[ViolentPanda]

And this is what we call the backtrack - the bit when, what have become his, by now, everyday social assumptions are highlighted to him - the bit where it appears that they were made from purely the most perfect intentions and in fact were designed to show the opposite of what they actually said/portrayed/implied.

You don't even know you're doing it anymore.

You mean like the little bit of sexism he coughed up last week?

 

[articul8]

The people with intelligence but no education are now in your bubble - your bubble defines intelligence. Brand isn't in your bubble therefore he is neither intelligant nor erudite. You can no longer see.

What the fuck? If anyone is in a bubble it's Brand - the millionaire celeb!

 

[Ld222]

And maybe you're a delicate flower with an eggshell personality, who takes any tone that isn't subservience and/or agreement to be insult.

See? Both of us can make bullshit speculations!

Perhaps you are just a bully.

 

[butchersapron]

but your calling it boring

It would make no difference if he called it racy exciting the greatest thing since fucking bucks fizz. Jesus christ.

 

[Buckaroo]

but your calling it boring

It's you're and he isn't.

 

[Ld222]

It's you're and he isn't.

Thanks for that

 

[butchersapron]

What the fuck? If anyone is in a bubble it's Brand - the millionaire celeb!

Of course he's in a bubble - you missed the point, which was that you responded as if intelligence and erudition are things that only you and your own bubble can accredit and that having only a few gsces whilst not being in your bubble means nah not in the club.

 

[ViolentPanda]

but your calling it boring

No. My remark was to the effect that I found your use of bits of Irish boring.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Exactly how many gcses do you suggest is acceptable articul8?

How acceptable is zero GCSEs?

 

[Ld222]

It would make no difference if he called it racy exciting the greatest thing since fucking bucks fizz. Jesus christ.

Calm down.

A little bit of respect go's a long way.

 

[ViolentPanda]

It's hilarious to see articul8 closely guard intelligence to his chest - that's not for people outside of the bubble.

Frankly, on the performance of many inside the bubble, it's not for them either!

 

[articul8]

Of course he's in a bubble - you missed the point, which was that you responded as if intelligence and erudition are things that only you and your own bubble can accredit and that having only a few gsces whilst not being in your bubble means nah not in the club.

People can be intelligent and erudite without formal qualifications, as I've already stated quite clearly if you could read without the prejudice.

 

[butchersapron]

Calm down.

A little bit of respect go's a long way.

Don't start throwing irish onto an english language board then turn the inevitable responses into an attack on the fucking irish. That's what disrespectful is. What bis the point of you being on this thread? What have you brought to it?

 

[chilango]

A little bit of respect go's a long way.

Indeed it does. So why post comments in a language that many on here are unlikely to understand? Huh?

 

[ViolentPanda]

The people with intelligence but no education you talk about are now in your bubble - your bubble defines intelligence. Brand isn't in your bubble therefore he is neither intelligent nor erudite. You can no longer see society.

Pfft. Everyone knows there's no such thing as "society" in the neolibtastic Labour Party articul8 supports!

 

[articul8]

How acceptable is zero GCSEs?

Education is very important but formal qualifications aren't the sole measure of intelligence

 

[butchersapron]

People can be intelligent and erudite without formal qualifications, as I've already stated quite clearly if you could read without the prejudice.

Do you really then think your handful of gcses jibe was helpful worthwhile or made any sort of sense?

And your explanation of why you did simply doesn't hold up either. You clearly linked erudition to academic achievement then in a following post to intelligence.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Perhaps you are just a bully.

Perhaps you have nothing to say that's worth saying, and it upsets you that people see this. On the evidence of this thread, that would be a reasonable conclusion.

 

[Ld222]

Don't start throwing irish onto an english language board then turn the inevitable responses into an attack on the fucking irish. That's what disrespectful is. What bis the point of you being on this thread? What have you brought to it?

How is using a wee bit of Irish disrespectful?.