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Russell Brand on Revolution

Perhaps you have nothing to say that's worth saying, and it upsets you that people see this. On the evidence of this thread, that would be a reasonable conclusion.

That's what you would say looking down from that pedestal that you have placed yourself on.
 
It would make no difference if he called it racy exciting the greatest thing since fucking bucks fizz. Jesus christ.

Ah, but it clearly does make a difference to Ld222.
After all, if you can't bring a decent argument to the table, what's left but insinuation, and insinuating someone is anti-Irish is still effective, although arguably not as effective as it once was.
 
What? You think because you liked a couple of posts you misunderstood, people would wade in when the Irish language card was played? Fuck that. There's a discussion, an argument and when it get's tricky at least have the dignity to stick to your guns or concede without taking the piss. Throw the towel in or fuck off.

What the fuck are you on about?

"Throw in the towel"

It's not a boxing box. It's a discussion, which has far from reach it's conclusion.
 
Do you really then think your handful of gcses jibe was helpful worthwhile or made any sort of sense?

And your explanation of why you did simply doesn't hold up either. You clearly linked erudition to academic achievement then in a following post to intelligence.
You judge and find Brand deficienct, but if anyone ventures an opinion who isn't authorised so to do on your terms, they are making an illegitimate claim to entitlement.
 
You judge and find Brand deficienct, but if anyone ventures an opinion who isn't authorised so to do on your terms, they are making an illegitimate claim to entitlement.
I didn't find him deficient (in fact i made clear it's wider context and conditions that means brand isn't in control of of everything - conditions that he is more than aware of of which make his recent interventions deficient, not him) because he's not been properly accredited with intelligence and erudition via the requisite number of gsces by your bubble. You did.

And talk like you are a human. I'm sure you think that you are.
 
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Education is very important but formal qualifications aren't the sole measure of intelligence

I'm well aware of that.
They are, however, a "measure of intelligence" insofar as they're a "metric" used by many people in the political and economic elites. I generally have a three-phase interaction with that sort of person:
1) They disregard me because when I speak, I sound like a working class south Londoner (what with being a working class south Londoner).
2) If I present my educational credentials, they think I'm bullshitting.
3) When I prove my educational credentials, they try to disregard my right to speak by turning the issue onto my politics.

In other words, for people in the economic and political bubbles, "the right sort of" education - often but not exclusively attendance at the "right" institutions - is the only education of note. Everything else can be treated as the work of idiot savants, which is precisely what your original "erudition" post reduces Brand to.
 
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You judge and find Brand deficienct, but if anyone ventures an opinion who isn't authorised so to do on your terms, they are making an illegitimate claim to entitlement.
It's easy enough to criticise Brand's behaviour without making comments about his educational achievements.
Indeed, he has no grounds to judge brand on his academic achievements other than the glory of his own and the bubble he knocks around with. What cushy job is her ladyship doing this time, at what university articul8?
 
What the fuck are you on about?

"Throw in the towel"

It's not a boxing box. It's a discussion, which has far from reach it's conclusion.

Well have a discussion then without educating people about the grammatical meaning of the word 'that' and then accusing people of having a problem with the Irish language. Seriously, who doesn't have a problem with the Irish language? Not that it matters to this thread etc.
 
Ah, but it clearly does make a difference to Ld222.
After all, if you can't bring a decent argument to the table, what's left but insinuation, and insinuating someone is anti-Irish is still effective, although arguably not as effective as it once was.

It's not just about ego or winning the argument, to me it's about getting to the bottom what actually went on.

I have not insinuated that you're anti-Irish.
 
Well have a discussion then without educating people about the grammatical meaning of the word 'that' and then accusing people of having a problem with the Irish language. Seriously, who doesn't have a problem with the Irish language? Not that it matters to this thread etc.

I'm sure BA knows the meaning of that, it was a fucking joke.
 
Was Easeman up front with Brand about his political affiliations?
Brand talked to him over an extended period. His views as posted on here were known at this time. Brand felt enthused by them and wanted to include them first in his book then when that fell through (we still don't know why) in a large promotional panel discussion for his book. These views that we know about where there for him to know - plus extra opps that we didn't. Stop being so naive.

And let's assume that such a voracious reader/consumer didn't know - that throws up the very question i asked you this morning that you chose to run away from. How can you trust anything that someone who doesn't do basic fact or background checks does? And then, why are people like you blindly following him.

I don't expect a serious answer from you btw - i know that's not happening.
 
It's easy enough to criticise Brand's behaviour without making comments about his educational achievements.
1000 posts of it. Then articul8 joins in.
I wasn't criticising his behaviour though. I was criticising the standards of a section of the media for whom Brand is what counts as erudite, and how that plays into Brand's self-image (with very little of substance there to back up those pretensions) if anything, it was his pretentiousness I was mocking not his level of educational attainment.
 
I wasn't criticising his behaviour though. I was criticising the standards of a section of the media for whom Brand is what counts as erudite, and how that plays into Brand's self-image (with very little of substance there to back up those pretensions) if anything, it was his pretentiousness I was mocking not his level of educational attainment.
You had no need to bring in his educational attainment - none at all. Yet you did.

And now you pretend that you were attacking the media when you were attacking another posters suggestion that he is erudite. That's a total and utter lie.
 
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