Russell Brand on Revolution

[articul8]

I've no idea about Brand's educational background btw. For all I know he may have a drama degree. The point is the gap between the pretention and the reality.

 

[Pickman's model]

Hopefully, very

there are very few people below the age of 15 with any gcses

 

[Pickman's model]

Hopefully, very

& very few people over 44 have any gcses.

 

[ViolentPanda]

You judge and find Brand deficienct, but if anyone ventures an opinion who isn't authorised so to do on your terms, they are making an illegitimate claim to entitlement.

No-one has judged him, his motivations, aims and utterances have been questioned.
Now, I realise that such critique and analysis are lamentably under-used in your bubble, but that doesn't excuse your conflating critique with judgement.

 

[coley]

& very few people over 44 have any gcses.

Buggirinhell they were called "northern counties" when I was at school.

 

[butchersapron]

I've no idea about Brand's educational background btw. For all I know he may have a drama degree. The point is the gap between the pretention and the reality.

Yeah no idea, just chucked in a few gcses to indicate thick - lacking in intelligence or erudition. By accident. Or just because that's who you are now.

The point is that you chose to publicly say that brand is not erudite or intelligent because he only has a few gcses. The rest is waffly retreat.

Who is looking like the thick one here right now? Again.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Indeed, he has no grounds to judge brand on his academic achievements other than the glory of his own and the bubble he knocks around with. What cushy job is her ladyship doing this time, at what university articul8?

There's glory to a BA in philosophomolising?

 

[Pickman's model]

Buggirinhell they were called "northern counties" when I was at school.

when i started school they were o levels. when i left they were gcses.

 

[articul8]

No-one has judged him, his motivations, aims and utterances have been questioned.
Now, I realise that such critique and analysis are lamentably under-used in your bubble, but that doesn't excuse your conflating critique with judgement.

If you really want to go down this road, there is no such thing as critique without a normative basis, and norms imply the possibility of judgement.

 

[butchersapron]

I've no idea about Brand's educational background btw. For all I know he may have a drama degree. The point is the gap between the pretention and the reality.

Here we go again, you consider him thick and un-erudite therefore he must have only a few gcses. You cannot grasp this at all can you?

 

[butchersapron]

If you really want to go down this road, there is no such thing as critique without a normative basis, and norms imply the possibility of judgement.

 

[coley]

when i started school they were o levels. when i left they were gcses.

Sprog

 

[rekil]

Not far off, since the early/mid-eighties. It's the scraggy beard makes me look haggard and past it, honest.

A 2010 study actually found that men were reverting to more masculine ways of behaviour in response to the recession. The self-grooming metrosexuals were giving way to a more rough and ready aesthetic. Witness the contemporary renaissance of the beard.

That's you that is. And it means you're a nazi. (!)

 

[ViolentPanda]

It's not just about ego or winning the argument, to me it's about getting to the bottom what actually went on.

Except that your posts on this thread do very little to get to the bottom of anything, and your disinclination to actually read the whole thing means that you're attempting to "get to the bottom of" something on minimal information, and expecting others to spoon-feed you links because you can't be arsed to look for them (on this thread) for yourself.

I have not insinuated that you're anti-Irish.

It's inherent to asking me if I'm mocking the Irish language, or asking me if I have a problem with the Irish language.

 

[articul8]

Here we go again, you consider him thick and un-erudite therefore he must have only a few gcses. You icannot grasp this at all can you?

Who has said he's thick? I've not. I've suggested he's not as clever as he makes out, or the erudite figure the mass media promotes him as. Someone like Morrissey, who left school without quals, had (or has) much more substance, and yet he wasn't feted as for his political ideas in the same way.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Hopefully, very

Good, because I've got zero, and very few O Levels or CSEs, either!

 

[ViolentPanda]

you remind me of the bourbons, who famously learned nothing and forgot nothing. only you'll have to work harder on your memory.

TBF they took the biscuit.

 

[butchersapron]

Who has said he's thick? I've not. I've suggested he's not as clever as he makes out, or the erudite figure the mass media promotes him as. Someone like Morrissey, who left school without quals, had (or has) has much more substance, and yet he wasn't feted as for his political ideas in the same way.

You did - and then in a following post equated erudition with intelligence. You're a mess. Stop.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Brand had enough time to check who he was sharing a platform with. Doesn't take long.

Yup. Easeman's thoughts and opinions aren't exactly hidden from anyone who can input his name into a search engine.

 

[J Ed]

TBF they took the biscuit.

The jammy dodgers

 

[FNG]

It's inherent to asking me if I'm mocking the Irish language, or asking me if I have a problem with the Irish language.

Come on now mr panda, everyone knows yiddish isn't a real language,its a made up language like Klingon,Gaelic and Wookie

 

[butchersapron]

Who has said he's thick? I've not. I've suggested he's not as clever as he makes out, or the erudite figure the mass media promotes him as. Someone like Morrissey, who left school without quals, had (or has) much more substance, and yet he wasn't feted as for his political ideas in the same way.

And no, you suggested another poster was wrong on his erudition - not the mass media. And the basis for this was his lack of gcses. That trick (poster/mass media won't work)

 

[articul8]

Again on the white van. That begs the question of whether (aesthetic) mimesis can constute critique in itself. In that instance the normative basis was ascribed rather than immanent to the image.

 

[Pickman's model]

If you really want to go down this road, there is no such thing as critique without a normative basis, and norms imply the possibility of judgement.

could you list yr qualifications so we can all work out whether we're more erudite than you

 

[stethoscope]

Again on the white van. That begs the question of whether (aesthetic) mimesis can constute critique in itself. In that instance the normative basis was ascribed rather than immanent to the image.

What the fuck does this even mean?!

 

[articul8]

could you list yr qualifications so we can all work out whether we're more erudite than you

I could, but I'm sure you would cite that as evidence in favour of my argument that the two are non-identical!

 

[butchersapron]

Again on the white van. That begs the question of whether (aesthetic) mimesis can constute critique in itself. In that instance the normative basis was ascribed rather than immanent to the image.

He means can copying an image be critique in itslef. And that in in this case everyone else was wrong because they spotted what the posh lady thought and was doing (i.e they have real life experience of what it meant). He didn't.

You make my stomach turn

 

[articul8]

What the fuck does this even mean?!

She took a picture. What the picture "means" cannot necessarily be determined without making assumptions about what she must have meant by it.

 

[butchersapron]

She took a picture. What the picture "means" cannot necessarily be determined without making assumptions about what she must have meant by it.

Yeah so people made assumptions - correct assumptions. It's called inductive logic. Life operates on it. Some of them deductions are based on social experience.

 

[ViolentPanda]

What? In a 'Hello Russell, did I forget to tell you I was a fash, ah, sorry about that' kind of way?

Maybe Russell Brand has a touch of jazzz's naivety about him. After all, jazz didn't think his academic truther mate Kollerstrom was an anti-Semite, even after he'd trotted out that "swimming pools at Auschwitz" line?