Jo Brand's "throw acid not milk" at politicians joke

[Pickman's model]

meh, brand was using neckbeard as an insult, she's fair game. no big deal.

if you want to refute the epithet 'sexist pig' try to give a reason why you're not a sexist pig rather than saying 'she was nasty first'

 

[no-no]

Why are you making a thing about her weight?

he responded to an offensive joke with another one, it's funny because Jo Brand no longer has the moral authority to complain.

 

[Pickman's model]

he responded to an offensive joke with another one, it's funny because Jo Brand no longer has the moral authority to complain.

you are a sexist pig. and a particularly stupid sexist pig at that.

 

[no-no]

if you want to refute the epithet 'sexist pig' try to give a reason why you're not a sexist pig rather than saying 'she was nasty first'

I wasn't trying to refute the accusation. Mind you it wasn't sexist, it was fatist or whatever if I was going to be picky.

The point is, she's willing to indulge in mean humour, it's going to come back the other way. I'm sure she's not crying over her weetabix this morning.

 

[8ball]

Jo Brand, Sargon, Dankula, The airport bloke, none of them have done anything wrong. A joke is a joke, even if it's shit.

Aside from Jo Brand, the only one I've heard of is Dankula, I think.

To be fair, I thought Danger Mouse was better.

 

[Pickman's model]

I wasn't trying to refute the accusation. Mind you it wasn't sexist, it was fatist or whatever if I was going to be picky.

i am not drawing my belief in your sexism solely from your op.

The point is, she's willing to indulge in mean humour, it's going to come back the other way. I'm sure she's not crying over her weetabix this morning.

explain it to me, how your calling her a lump is mean humour

 

[Pickman's model]

Aside from Jo Brand, the only one I've heard of is Dankula, I think.

To be fair, I thought Danger Mouse was better.

dan kula played bass for ruddy yurts on his 1983 tour

but he died in 2007

 

[8ball]

dan kula played bass for ruddy yurts on his 1983 tour

but he died in 2007

Maybe this was Dan Kula Jnr or something.

 

[Pickman's model]

Maybe this was Dan Kula Jnr or something.

i'm sure they're not related

 

[no-no]

i am not drawing my belief in your sexism solely from your op.

explain it to me, how your calling her a lump is mean humour

It wasn't me that called her a lump, I defended her, I don't think she should be facing anything but opinion.

i can help you anyway though.

It's humour in exactly the same way it's humour when she describes people as neckbeards, or even when she fantasizes about acid attacks. There's nothing to be angry about here, some people were rude to each other, it's not a big deal.

 

[Pickman's model]

It wasn't me that called her a lump

you're quite right, i'm sorry for associating you with nardy.

 

[no-no]

This is tricky one - I laughed and got that it was not inciting people to throw acid at (Tory?) politicians, but I had a sense of humour failure when some petrol headed dick (I can't remember who but not JC I think) jokingly suggested putting cheese wires across cycle paths, and then someone did. On the one hand people are very quick to take offence, on the other there are some sick idiots out there who would not have thought of it for themselves until a joke is made by someone in the public eye.

That's a pretty old trick tbf and even if they did get the idea from JC, still not his responsibility, it's theirs 100%.

I don't want my comedy watered down because some people are idiots.

 

[Gromit]

If Jo Brand was a musician I'd be saying something along the lines of Liking her early albums but her latest stuff is nowhere near as good. Chucking out the same old stuff but with less skill.

Am I offended at her acid joke? No more than I am at lawyers at the bottom of the ocean and other types of generalistic wishing harm type jokes. As most of the time they don't actually mean it. We might jokingly wish Boris got decapitated but we don't really.

Exception: It's different if its the president of the US talking to the NRA mind.

 

[xenon]

Probably been posted but if not...

Further to the picking up a rifle rubbish. From a few years ago in defence of a racial joke.
We are heading down a road here where we would kill all humour in this country if we tear things to pieces."

"Enough is enough, let people tell their jokes. If what they say is inappropriate they won't earn a living because they won't get booked again.”

Nigel Farage defends ‘foreigner’ jokes at Ukip party conference

 

[8ball]

I see few principles from left or right here. People just use such arguments as tools to further their agendas, then downplay them when it doesn't suit.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Ah great we've got an edgy tory

 

[8ball]

If Jo Brand was a musician I'd be saying something along the lines of Liking her early albums but her latest stuff is nowhere near as good. Chucking out the same old stuff but with less skill.

Am I offended at her acid joke? No more than I am at lawyers at the bottom of the ocean and other types of generalistic wishing harm type jokes. As most of the time they don't actually mean it. We might jokingly wish Boris got decapitated but we don't really.

Exception: It's different if its the president of the US talking to the NRA mind.

I'm kind of on the fence with the Boris decapitation thing tbf.

 

[Proper Tidy]

We might jokingly wish Boris got decapitated but we don't really.

I do. Get him in a jumpsuit

 

[Struwwelpeter]

That's a pretty old trick tbf and even if they did get the idea from JC, still not his responsibility, it's theirs 100%.

I don't want my comedy watered down because some people are idiots.

Fair enough. Especially as NF was defending bad taste/offensive humour before.

(Tries, and fails to invent a witty line about throwing alkaline batteries at NF in order to neutralise the acid ...)

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Aside from Jo Brand, the only one I've heard of is Dankula, I think.

To be fair, I thought Danger Mouse was better.

Sargon is Carl Benjamin of recent UKIP rape joke fame (but also lengthy harassment of feminists and general cuntiness - of course "all a joke").

 

[8ball]

Sargon is Carl Benjamin of recent UKIP rape joke fame (but also lengthy harassment of feminists and general cuntiness - of course "all a joke").

Ah, him.

That one hardly counted as a joke, though. Not even a poor one.

There is expecting a reasonable awareness of the interplay of content, context and intent, and then there is harassment followed by expecting to get away with it by saying it was a joke.

 

[extra dry]

Its free speach, Jo can say and do what she likes, it the production team at the BBC who let the comment be broadcast to the 3 million or so who still stick to the bbc.

Has Jo got a book coming out soon?, drumming up business and the profile, surprized Trump hasn't weighed in yet.

 

[no-no]

Sargon is Carl Benjamin of recent UKIP rape joke fame (but also lengthy harassment of feminists and general cuntiness - of course "all a joke").

i tend to think that if they didn't mean it literally then it's a joke, funny or not.

That'd apply to Sargon's rape tweet and Jo Brand's acid attack joke.

At the moment we literally have the joke police, I'd love to be a fly on the wall to see what their "investigations" look like.

 

[8ball]

Its free speach...

Probably a good time to point out that we don't actually have freedom of speech in this country.
That's an American thing.

 

[Pickman's model]

i tend to think that if they didn't mean it literally then it's a joke, funny or not.

That'd apply to Sargon's rape tweet and Jo Brand's acid attack joke.

At the moment we literally have the joke police, I'd love to be a fly on the wall to see what their "investigations" look like.

you'd end up squashed

 

[Spymaster]

Probably a good time to point out that we don't actually have freedom of speech in this country.
That's an American thing.

No country in the world has absolute freedom of speech.

 

[extra dry]

So now, who dare speak their ideas or in Jo's case joke about stuff.

No one, we police ourselves fairly orderly

 

[8ball]

No country in the world has absolute freedom of speech.

I feel a 'teachable moment' coming on...

 

[Spymaster]

I find Jo funny ...

Jo can say and do what she likes ...
Has Jo got a book coming out soon?

... or in Jo's case ...

Pet hate alert. Why do people do this? Referring to slebs by their first names as if they know them.

You do NOT know them. It's wanky. Stop it.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

No country in the world has absolute freedom of speech.

The US comes closest, though. Loads of offensive shit you can say there and can't say here.