He didn't mean that you docile wrecker. Miliband meant that the tweet was disrespectful and that, you should automatically respect people - which is just common decency. Miliband reacted correctly - the problem Labour has that because it turns out the bloke does have a few "interesting" views then enough Labour types will use that as an excuse to continue showing disrespect and so probably over shadow Ed's action (because like you they don't understand what the millionaire liberal snob did wrong)
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He didn't mean that you docile wrecker. Miliband meant that the tweet was disrespectful and that, you should automatically respect people - which is just common decency. Miliband reacted correctly - the problem Labour has that because it turns out the bloke does have a few "interesting" views then enough Labour types will use that as an excuse to continue showing disrespect and so probably over shadow Ed's action (because like you they don't understand what the millionaire liberal snob did wrong)
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it's wicked to mock the afflicted 
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Ed went ape on it to bolster himself the useless bastard. It was poor judgement on Thornberry's part, a fucking lawyer posting a pic of someone's home and number plate, but she didn't invade Poland.
Funny how, on the one hand the Labour Party seems to wish to show it's beyond a PC talking shop of elites and is robust enough to take on the uncomfortable views of some of it's constituency and yet it shows this by ruthlessness towards it's own errors in a desperate attempt to play the gallery. How does that show people the party is welcoming and inclusive?
He should have given her a bollocking but kept it in the dressing room. It's like he sacked the first person to catch his eye.
Funny how, on the one hand the Labour Party seems to wish to show it's beyond a PC talking shop of elites and is robust enough to take on the uncomfortable views of some of it's constituency and yet it shows this by ruthlessness towards it's own errors in a desperate attempt to play the gallery. How does that show people the party is welcoming and inclusive?
He should have given her a bollocking but kept it in the dressing room. It's like he sacked the first person to catch his eye.
That's not how politics works
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
There's a time to sack and a time to ride it out. Hopefully if Ed gets in he'll have good advice from a competent Attorney General when it comes to say, going to war in the Middle East. That's tells you how trivial this issue is by comparison.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Blair's AG told him the invasion of iraq was illegal. That worked out well.
ska invita
back on the other side
She was lying tbf
gosub
~#
Overridden by Straw. When does that inquiry publish ?
gosub
~#
True, but alienate voters and you don't get in the position to make those decisions
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
It's not really, is it?
He sacked the MP who thought it clever to take the piss out of the people that their party used to represent.
coley
Well-Known Member
Not getting into this bunfight but looking at that photo,the word Sneer came across loud and clear.
rekil
to menny cranks
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"The keyword for the next 6 months is "the protocols" people. We don't know if they were a forgery or not so let's push hard."
coley
Well-Known Member
Aye, she was guilty of making public what most in Westminster believe.
ska invita
back on the other side
no no you bastard, thats just you sneering, she was just looking blankly and impartially at it
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
it was a moment of psychogeography where the genius loci of the place siezed her to photo the doric. the georges, and the defiant van as poignant and somehow moving examples of the layered echoes of empires now written in faded flag and crazy flagstone- the rust of the wheel arch and the rust of past glories.
It was an artistic statement
It was an artistic statement
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
my name is thornberry, look upon my tweets you mighty and despair
coley
Well-Known Member
no no you bastard, thats just you sneering, she was just looking blankly and impartially at it
Bugger, you have caught me in the middle of trying to flog me transit and wondering what the visiting social services have made of the little union flag that me nephews stuck in the flower bed.
No sleep tonight, thanks to you, you insufferable PC git
ska invita
back on the other side
relating to the photo, a good comment piece here which rings true - what with economic policy as good as agreed on by the parties whats left is a division over identity and tribalism
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ornberry-tweet-us-style-culture-wars-identity
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ornberry-tweet-us-style-culture-wars-identity
bamalama
don't do that
Another one for the family cannon fodder conveyer belt,Bugger, you have caught me in the middle of trying to flog me transit and wondering what the visiting social services have made of the little union flag that me nephews stuck in the flower bed.
No sleep tonight, thanks to you, you insufferable PC git
you insufferable,deluded apologist
Ole
Well-Known Member
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
There's not much point continuing this, since it is perfectly evident that political opponents of Labour have a vested interest in misreading her tweet as some kind of snobbery, or an attack on working class people in general. Miliband has accepted that narrative, a major mistake. The hostility on here just shows how much some people have invested in it.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
The hostility on here should give you a clue how this is being (mis)read more widely.
Unless you're gonna claim we're all far right ultra-leftists?
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
No one I know IRL has "leapt on it" but I can bet you how they read it.
And I know plenty of people who'd share her sneering views too.
I can't think of anyone who'd read it in the way you are.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I bet you can think of some people who have an interest in pretending they genuinely read it like articul8 pretends to genuinely read it. They'd all be involved in the same bubble mind.
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Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
I'm a Labour voter from as soon as I was old enough to vote, the enthusiasm for which has since dissipated to the "should I hold my nose and vote for Labour as the least worst option, or should I spoil my ballot since i'm going unrepresented anyway" school of thought.
I read her tweet as 'some kind of snobbery', and I didn't need to be told to think that by a red top newspaper. Am I some kind of political opponent to Labour, or am I a vote that Labour should be working hard to get back?
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Spot on Zapp. And shared by my w/c mother, who was very a committed Labour activist in the 80s-early 90s, and whom feels really alienated by the party now - usually voting for them just because 'she hates the Tories so much'.
She's never been much of a fan of England flags much either, but saw Thornberry's actions as 'typical of the political class gulf that exists', and is not surprised people vote UKIP even though she's wary of their popularity. She doesn't like Ed much either but not on this particular issue
She's never been much of a fan of England flags much either, but saw Thornberry's actions as 'typical of the political class gulf that exists', and is not surprised people vote UKIP even though she's wary of their popularity. She doesn't like Ed much either but not on this particular issue
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
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