Racism towards Travellers in the UK

[bellaozzydog]

Define GRT community.

Do you think they all come wearing a string vest, sovereign rings, a mullet and a limping lurcher?

 

[Spymaster]

... surely a Terribly Smart Chap such as yourself knows the difference between (extremely vague) anecdotal and empirical evidence?

Well I wouldn't expect a fuckwit like you to appreciate that I'm not posting for anyone else or telling them what to think.

Yes. I'm posting my own feelings and telling you why I hold them. You're free to have your own.

 

[Rob Ray]

I've not accused you of demanding others change their minds hun.

 

[Spymaster]

I've not accused you of demanding others change their minds hun.

See post #109.

 

[bellaozzydog]

Well I wouldn't expect a fuckwit like you to appreciate that I'm not posting for anyone else or telling them what to think.

Yes. I'm posting my own feelings and telling you why I hold them. You're free to have your own.

The “what I feel” defence is a bit of a departure from your usual, deftly analytical, logical persona

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The “what I feel” defence is a bit of a departure from your usual, deftly analytical, logical persona

Jesus, read what the man has written, ffs.

 

[Rob Ray]

I'm not posting for anyone else or telling them what to think.

 

[Spymaster]

The “what I feel” defence is a bit of a departure from your usual, deftly analytical, logical persona

There's more than one way to educate idiots.

 

[bellaozzydog]

Jesus, read what the man has written, ffs.

I did, on this thread and the other thread.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I did, on this thread and the other thread.

Then you can't seem to understand what he's said, which is unlike you tbf.

 

[Rob Ray]

He made an assertion, refused to back it up on the grounds its just like, his opinion, man, and threw a bit of a tantrum when pressed. Something of a pointless intervention really.

 

[Spymaster]

He made an assertion, refused to back it up on the grounds its just like, his opinion, man, and threw a bit of a tantrum when pressed. Something of a pointless intervention really.

Lol. Think you and that dog fella are reading a different thread to everyone else.

And being rude to you isn't the same as throwing a tantrum, old chap.

 

[Rob Ray]

Sure sure.

We both know the quality of your rudeness has been low on this thread, lost temper low. If you weren't having a tantrum you'd have been more articulate.

 

[brogdale]

Given the polishing you've been giving your dunce credentials over so many threads recently, I'll just ignore that.

Noticed that when up against it you tend to lash out and claim that those you're engaging with are somehow intellectually inferior to yourself. Is this something you need to reflect on?

 

[The39thStep]

Urban's Joey Barton

 

[brogdale]

Urban's Joey Barton

Ooof, that's quite harsh...best let him reply, no?

 

[The39thStep]

Ooof, that's quite harsh...best let him reply, no?

I like him as a poster ( dont always agree with him but so what) however occasional scraps like this remind me of the Man City /QPR game when after a few digs Barton went around kicking a few others and was sent off , and before leaving the field he tried to 'take one with him'

 

[brogdale]

I like him as a poster ( dont always agree with him but so what) however occasional scraps like this remind me of the Man City /QPR game when after a few digs Barton went around kicking a few others and was sent off , and before leaving the field he tried to 'take one with him'

Oh, I see...hmm

 

[InArduisFouette]

Where I live (Medway), the comments in local news sites/Facebook pages whenever travellers park up are horrendous. Open calls to burn them, allegations of all sorts before anything has happened, the works. Self care is not reading the comments sections I suppose.

I do think that local authorities are missing a trick in not making a handful of areas as something like designated traveller sites. This would negate the need to trespass on other sites and would provide opportunity for the removal of waste as well other facilities. Mind you this would also remove the need for lurid headlines and rumours to fuel the racism so.....

most LAs do have some , dismal, underprovision but any attempt to expand it or create new sites = pitchforks and flaming torches from pearl clutching NIMBYs

 

[Spymaster]

I like him as a poster ( dont always agree with him but so what) however occasional scraps like this remind me of the Man City /QPR game when after a few digs Barton went around kicking a few others and was sent off , and before leaving the field he tried to 'take one with him'

Nah. I just respond in kind and have a low tolerance for morons!

 

[bellaozzydog]

Nah. I just respond in kind and have a low tolerance for morons!

There you go again

 

[likesfish]

The travellers who rock up on the football pitches in stanmer park get moved on sharpish the land is in regularly use by the Local community its not a campsite.
They have left commerical levels of waste behind. driven quads and cars over the pitches doing doughnuts.
attempted to intimidate the cafe and smashed up the playpark.

 

[Spymaster]

The travellers who rock up on the football pitches in stanmer park get moved on sharpish the land is in regularly use by the Local community its not a campsite.
They have left commerical levels of waste behind. driven quads and cars over the pitches doing doughnuts.
attempted to intimidate the cafe and smashed up the playpark.

It's only those ones though. They're not all the same you awful bigot!

 

[Yossarian]

It's only those ones though. They're not all the same you awful bigot!

The way you say that makes me think you do believe they're all the same

 

[Spymaster]

The way you say that makes me think you do believe they're all the same

In large groups, I do. I've never known an Irish Traveller site to not leave chaos in it's wake. That's not to say that I think they're all racists to a man and woman.

 

[bellaozzydog]

The thread started to ask the question “GRT the last acceptable form of racism”

….Descends into a litany of posters comfortably listing their negative anecdotes of the GRT community

This is how it works, perpetuating stereotypes.

Spymaster knows this but like Ricky Gervais knocking out trans jokes thinking he’s clever/edgy enough to pull it off

just a bit of Friday online intellectual sport

 

[The39thStep]

Nah. I just respond in kind and have a low tolerance for morons!

That was Barton’s logic in the game

 

[Spymaster]

just a bit of Friday online intellectual sport

Not one for you then.

And stop referring to the "GRT community" as a whole. People have been very specific that it's Irish travelers that cause the problems they're referring to.

 

[Rob Ray]

Spymaster has quite high tolerance for morons as long as they agree with him. It's the disagreement/feeling his august words aren't being respected that he can't stand. Gets him all shouty about everyone else being an idiot.

Anyhoo probably worth noting that it's always the stories of scumbags that pop up on these threads because, eg. my own experiences of traveller sites being primarily that they tidy up just fine despite being continually treated like they're about to burn everything down just aren't particularly interesting to recount.

 

[Spymaster]

... my own experiences of traveller sites being primarily that they tidy up just fine ...