PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[gosub]

It's a bit unfair, because he was making an analogy about paying £700 million for nuclear power, rather than channelling the money saving guy. A shit an patronising analogy, but one nonetheless.

Nuclear is really a giant magic kettle <-now thats what I call a patronising analogy

 

[SpookyFrank]

Nuclear is really a giant magic kettle <-now thats what I call a patronising analogy

I use this analogy, without the 'magic' part, to explain nuclear power to schoolkids. Because that is the basic idea; heat source + water = steam, steam drives turbine ---> electricity.

There's usually a 'but it's not quite that simple...' bit after that. It's one of those things I struggle not to put an editorial slant on. It comes down to how you relay facts. So far most nuclear power stations have operated with no major problems. But the ones that have had major problems have forced us to change our understanding of just how major a 'major problem' can get.

 

[Pickman's model]

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Frankly Mr chunky

 

[two sheds]

It's a bit unfair, because he was making an analogy about paying £700 million for nuclear power, rather than channelling the money saving guy. A shit and patronising analogy, but one nonetheless.

he's comparing paying £700 million for nuclear power against buying a new kettle?

And it depends how much you fill it as to whether you'll save energy. New kettle's no more efficient.

 

[two sheds]

I use this analogy, without the 'magic' part, to explain nuclear power to schoolkids. Because that is the basic idea; heat source + water = steam, steam drives turbine ---> electricity.

There's usually a 'but it's not quite that simple...' bit after that. It's one of those things I struggle not to put an editorial slant on. It comes down to how you relay facts. So far most nuclear power stations have operated with no major problems. But the ones that have had major problems have forced us to change our understanding of just how major a 'major problem' can get.

Indeed, that's how they work. No major problems as in not many have blown up, but there's been huge delays and cost increases in some of the latest ones havent there?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Indeed, that's how they work. No major problems as in not many have blown up, but there's been huge delays and cost increases in some of the latest ones havent there?

That's not specific to nuclear power though, it's just how stuff works these days. It's a kleptocracy problem, not a physics problem.

 

[two sheds]

Indeed, but rather an actual practical (design and construction) problem with nuclear that you don't get with wind or solar for example?

 

[oryx]

Nuclear is really a giant magic kettle <-now thats what I call a patronising analogy

It's like comparing the national economy to a domestic budget - 'fixing the roof while the sun shines' to paraphrase George Osborne.

 

[cupid_stunt]

And it depends how much you fill it as to whether you'll save energy. New kettle's no more efficient.

A lot of new kettles have lower minimum fill amounts and boil faster, so do save energy.

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In fact, most of our Eco Buy kettles have been awarded the title because of their speedy boiling. If a kettle is able to reach boiling point in around three minutes, it will use far less energy than one that takes four or five minutes to boil the same amount.

So if you're looking to cut down on your energy bills you're far better off choosing a fast boil kettle as it'll likely save you money in the long run. You won't be left waiting around for your morning cuppa either, which is a nice bonus.

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[Ax^]

He should send this in to viz's top tips, the out of touch cunt.

surprised he did not come out with ramen noodle recipes you can cook in a kettle
over the winter to save on gas bills

 

[SpookyFrank]

Indeed, but rather an actual practical (design and construction) problem with nuclear that you don't get with wind or solar for example?

Well they're complicated things, but that's something you should be aware of before you start building one.

IIRC they struggled to find anyone who wanted to take on building Hinckley C. Always nice to have your fate in the hands of the contractors of last resort.

 

[SpookyFrank]

He should send this in to viz's top tips, the out of touch cunt.

All electric kettles boil water at the same speed because it's just a heating element, which is as near as makes no odds 100% efficient, running at the highest amperage you can safely get out of a domestic supply.

 

[two sheds]

A lot of new kettles have lower minimum fill amounts and boil faster, so do save energy.

Best energy efficient kettles for 2024 - Which?

Buy a recommended model from our list of the best energy efficient kettles. You'll get a speedy brew and save money on your electricity bills

www.which.co.uk

Indeed lower minimum fill amounts could save energy if you just need the minimum amount. I'd have thought that more energy is actually wasted by people filling above the minimum amount though.

And it just says 'could' save money in that reference. Admitted you'll lose less heat if you're boiling faster but it would be interesting to know how much.

But anyway ...

 

[SpookyFrank]

Indeed lower minimum fill amounts could save energy if you just need the minimum amount. I'd have thought that more energy is actually wasted by people filling above the minimum amount though.

And it just says 'could' save money in that reference. Admitted you'll lose less heat if you're boiling faster but it would be interesting to know how much.

But anyway ...

Older kettles had those exposed elements which, if you underfilled the kettle, part of it would be above the water just belching out heat into the air which is both wasteful and not very safe. Nowadays kettles have a flat element at the bottom so unless you put no water in at all there's not that same issue.

 

[two sheds]

I always filled to above the element but fair play if people don't.

I've actually just got a small £3 second hand 1.5 kW kettle which is better for me because of the solar panels.

 

[SpookyFrank]

My dad always bought crap kettles for 50p from the house clearance boxes at the local auction place. They'd last a month if you were lucky, before they caught fire or started pissing scalding water everywhere. But would he swallow his pride and spend five quid on a new kettle from argos that would just work? We were poor but we weren't that fucking poor. It was just stubbornness.

I always admired that.

 

[two sheds]

Did he design nuclear power stations?

 

[Chilli.s]

The only way BJ could help would be to have him rendered down to some kind of fuel oil

 

[gosub]

surprised he did not come out with ramen noodle recipes you can cook in a kettle
over the winter to save on gas bills

You want to put noodles in the water of a nuclear powerplant?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Did he design nuclear power stations?

No but he can build a good shed.

The tricky part is getting him to stop. He's got about five sheds now, including one with another shed inside it.

 

[two sheds]

you can never have too many sheds

 

[Calamity1971]

All electric kettles boil water at the same speed because it's just a heating element, which is as near as makes no odds 100% efficient, running at the highest amperage you can safely get out of a domestic supply.

The fucker doesn't realise that most people won't even be able to afford to boil a kettle, let alone buy a new one even if he wasn't talking utter fucking bollocks.

 

[existentialist]

All electric kettles boil water at the same speed because it's just a heating element, which is as near as makes no odds 100% efficient, running at the highest amperage you can safely get out of a domestic supply.

I think there will be differences, probably down to design/quality of materials, but I imagine they would be very small. Yeah, old kettles were much less efficient (if nothing else, there was quite a significant bulk of metal that had to be heated up alongside the water), but who's still using one of those in daily use?

He also conveniently forgets to mention that a lot of cheap modern kettles will last just about as long as the warranty period, perhaps a little longer. So that £10 "investment" might have to pay off very quickly if it is to be replaced in a year or two.

But this is just another bullshit non-story - the real story is (as if we needed more evidence) proof of the total and utter disconnection of experience that exists between the political system and the lived experience of the vast bulk of the population.

 

[Calamity1971]

I think there will be differences, probably down to design/quality of materials, but I imagine they would be very small. Yeah, old kettles were much less efficient (if nothing else, there was quite a significant bulk of metal that had to be heated up alongside the water), but who's still using one of those in daily use?

He also conveniently forgets to mention that a lot of cheap modern kettles will last just about as long as the warranty period, perhaps a little longer. So that £10 "investment" might have to pay off very quickly if it is to be replaced in a year or two.

But this is just another bullshit non-story - the real story is (as if we needed more evidence) proof of the total and utter disconnection of experience that exists between the political system and the lived experience of the vast bulk of the population.

Cunts probably got a quooker. I'm always raging but today I'm off the bastard scale.

 

[Ax^]

My dad always bought crap kettles for 50p from the house clearance boxes at the local auction place. They'd last a month if you were lucky, before they caught fire or started pissing scalding water everywhere. But would he swallow his pride and spend five quid on a new kettle from argos that would just work? We were poor but we weren't that fucking poor. It was just stubbornness.

I always admired that.

i forgot mothers day a few years ago so randomly ask my mother what she would like she said a kitchen aid kettle

so got it at over 150 quid.. it last a year big tea drinkers

got a replacement lasted another 12 months

mom felt bad about using the guarantee again

40 quid kettle is going strong almost 3 years later

 

[gosub]

Very hard water area so no point getting an expensive kettle or building a nuclear reactor in the shed

 

[Raheem]

Excuses, excuses.

 

[pesh]

You want to put noodles in the water of a nuclear powerplant?

thats how you make Supernoodles

 

[Ming]

The fucker doesn't realise that most people won't even be able to afford to boil a kettle, let alone buy a new one even if he wasn't talking utter fucking bollocks.

I actually think these Tory cunts know exactly what they‘re saying. Just showing naked contempt for the oiks in my opinion. Three word slogans, cuddly old Boris, etc. I’ve always thought this. Never underestimate your opponent.

I said this over Brexit. It’s disaster capitalism. They knew what would happen. They tried to hide the impact reports. If you want fire-sale prices and you’ve got enough money to weather the storm you’ve intentionally created be an arsonist.

 

[MrSki]