8ball
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You clearly need to if no one believes there is an issue with widespread postal voting besides you.
Photo ID now a requirement to vote in the UK
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You clearly need to if no one believes there is an issue with widespread postal voting besides you.
When my postal ballot arrives and my Dad presents it to me asking me to vote and sign for it, otherwise I'm on the street.
THERE IS NO ELECTION OBSERVER PRESENT IN OUR KITCHEN
Erm many people who arrive down the polling station to vote in person believe there is dodgy stuff going on with postal votes......
......but the election has already been won or lost with dodgy fucking postal votes by that point.
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
So you are trusting the interface software not to change your vote but print out the person you voted for.
8ball
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Ah, so you assume the dodgy postal votes are both sufficient in number and sufficiently systematically skewed in one direction to actually determine an election result..
The interface sofware would be open source and can be run on any device. Bring 5 of your own devices to the polling booth, they will all give you the same answer.
8ball
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There would be no need for a polling booth with blockchain technologies (unless you deliberately engineered it to require them). Anywhere with internet access would work.
Given the lengths you would go to, to preserve something that's not needed, yup, they do swing elections.
You can't win this one.
There's no need for most people to have a PV and I would argue that in an ideal world, no one would need one.
The polling booth insures a secret ballot.
So it appears you're not deliberatly defending election fraud, you're just thick.
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
So why aren't electronic voting systems open-source already? And why would blockchain interface software be any different?
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
That's not the evidence of widespread integrity issues with postal voting that I asked for. That's a scenario you just made up in your head. Could it happen? Sure. With a frequency and to the degree that justifies withdrawing the postal vote? Well, we're gonna need solid evidence for that happening before we take any actions which might abridge the democratic rights of a minority of the electorate.
8ball
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Try to read my actual posts rather than imagining what I haven’t said (at least this makes you “real urbans”, I guess, hobnob, fiver etc.).
And then maybe have another go with that first sentence.
8ball
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You’re the one who can’t read.
Elections will be less important because local and national governments will have less power as local communites create their own local democracies.
If a large chunk of people don't want democracy because they are happy with the charade that we have now, it doesn't matter, it really doesn't. Those that really do care about their communities and a sense of fairness will create better systems.
If you don't like love, just go fuck off and simmer.
8ball
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PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
Mate, it's a Sunday, let's just agree to disagree and calm down.
8ball
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Oh I can.
Electronic voting doesn't eliminate the need for a polling booth.
The polling booth is there to maintain the secret vote. I don't expect many lefties to understand that, because democracy is a strange alien concept to lefties.
8ball
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Oh I can.
Electronic voting doesn't eliminate the need for a polling booth.
The polling booth is there to maintain the secret vote. I don't expect many lefties to understand that, because democracy is a strange alien concept to lefties.
Electronic voting can help to make remote voting more secure where required.
In terms of the actual voting booth, yeah, that’s secret, but blockchain doesn’t seem that relevant to your whole thing about postal voting in that case.
No. It's a brave new world out there.
People can do what the fuck they want.
For too long, middle class woke authoracunts have made themselves too busy with other people's lives to the point of ruin.
They belong on the sidelines with nothing to do, other than to simmer away at the loss of power they once had over us.
It's impossible to have remote voting without losing the secret ballot, though I'm open to being proved wrong.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
Ooooh, so that's what this whole theatre production has been about.Oh I can.
Electronic voting doesn't eliminate the need for a polling booth.
The polling booth is there to maintain the secret vote. I don't expect many lefties to understand that, because democracy is a strange alien concept to lefties.
Thread unfollowed.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
.....oh dear.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
It's an argument between valid, empirical data and your perception of the scale of coercion.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
"Sacred right"?
So, you're not bothered by numbered ballot papers and counterfoils being held by the state?
8ball
Maximum Facepalm
You could have the regular in-person voting system we have now, and replace postal votes with a well-authenticated electronic system where required. Possibly incorporating some blockchain tech, but I’m neither an expert or an enthusiast.
Could drip-feed the links out at random so there is no obvious heap of forms landing on the doormat one day.
Well, there’s a heap of possible permutations…
teqniq
DisMembered
Yup several stops past Barking. Anyone with half a brain cell knows what's going on here. The voter ID thing had been introduced for purely idealogical reasons; to disenfranchise those more likely to vote for candidates on the left of the political spectrum. Democracy is being denied to a large chunk of the population as a consequence. And you have the gall to insinuate that it is an 'alien concept to lefties'. Doctor, my sides.Oh I can.
Electronic voting doesn't eliminate the need for a polling booth.
The polling booth is there to maintain the secret vote. I don't expect many lefties to understand that, because democracy is a strange alien concept to lefties.
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