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Peterborough by-election, 6 June 2019

This guy seems to spend a lot of his time (having looked further at his twitter feed) searching for instances of antisemitism in the Labour party. Thing is, if it wasn't there he'd have nothing to tweet about. It does actually seem to be Lisa Forbes btw.

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I'm not allowed to join the Labour Party but they let these morons in. :facepalm:
 
Bexit Party with an emphatic win, so whichever Tory pillock replaces May takes that as a sign to out-Ukip the new Ukip. Cos that worked out so well last time...
 
Yeh. You know odds work by the way people put money on, not some genuine probability, right?

Err, yes, but people tend to place bets based on whatever information is available, such as polls & the recent Euro election results in this case.
 
Err, yes, but people tend to place bets based on whatever information is available, such as polls & the recent Euro election results in this case.
Should have stopped after yes really. Obviously people place bets based on information. But past performance no guarantee of future success as those unfortunate enough to back the fancied telecaster in the derby can confirm.
 
Err, yes, but people tend to place bets based on whatever information is available, such as polls & the recent Euro election results in this case.
regardless how the Lib Dems may be doing nationally, they got 1500 votes in Peterborough 2017. Labour and the tories got 22,000 each - there's no real chance of them getting anywhere within touching distance.
 
regardless how the Lib Dems may be doing nationally, they got 1500 votes in Peterborough 2017. Labour and the tories got 22,000 each - there's no real chance of them getting anywhere within touching distance.

We live in crazy times, and by-elections, like Euro elections, tend to be treated as a chance to register a protest vote.

Around here, in the 2017 GE - the LDs were third, a fucking long way behind the Tories & Labour - in the recent Euro elections - the LD were second, and well ahead of both the Tories & Labour.

Not much unlike what happened in Peterborough...

The Brexit Party got 16,196 votes in the city, more than twice that runners up Labour got.

Labour's 7,272 votes were closely followed by the Lib Dems' 6,491 votes.

Interestingly, the difference between the Conservatives and the Greens was just a mere 31 votes. With the Tories securing 4,594 votes against the Green's 4,563.
 
We live in crazy times, and by-elections, like Euro elections, tend to be treated as a chance to register a protest vote.

Around here, in the 2017 GE - the LDs were third, a fucking long way behind the Tories & Labour - in the recent Euro elections - the LD were second, and well ahead of both the Tories & Labour.

Not much unlike what happened in Peterborough...

Peterborough was majority Leave (can't remember exactly how large a majority) which suggests to me that LibDems won't be the protest vote of choice for the majority.
 
Peterborough was majority Leave (can't remember exactly how large a majority) which suggests to me that LibDems won't be the protest vote of choice for the majority.

Of course, there's a very good chance the Brexit Party could win this, but there's also a reasonable chance that the LDs will come second, as leave & remain voters both go with their protest votes, as they did 2 weeks ago, resulting in a collapse of votes for both the Tories & Labour.

At no point have I suggested the LDs could win this, just come second.
 
I think LD will get to keep their deposit this time round but can't see them winning, even coming second will be a major achievement.
If you asked me before the LE's and EU elections I would have reckoned Labour by the skin of their teeth as the Cult of Farage takes more
voters off the Tories than them. Now I think there is a real chance that the Cultists can win it and God help us all.
There is no way that Labour will be able to spin that as anything other than a catastrophe for them and the Tories will just go full Brexity
 
We live in crazy times, and by-elections, like Euro elections, tend to be treated as a chance to register a protest vote.

Around here, in the 2017 GE - the LDs were third, a fucking long way behind the Tories & Labour - in the recent Euro elections - the LD were second, and well ahead of both the Tories & Labour.

Not much unlike what happened in Peterborough...
The council boundaries are different to the Westminster seat boundaries, taking in a big chunk of a safe Tory seat where until recently the lib dems were a strong second, which makes it difficult to draw any conclusions from the EU vote.

Either way, the calculations the voters of Peterborough will be making tomorrow are different to the calculations they made last week - the need to stop Farage will concentrate minds, and labour are the most likely beneficiary of that.

There could be a seismic shift to the lib dems, but if there is no-one had picked up on it - even the guardian, who would fucking love it and be talking it up massively if there was any chance, are expecting labour to squeeze the lib dem vote rather than the other way round.
 
Farage would galvanise the opposition much more than a 'local businessman' will - more chance of winning this way.

Yes. Plus a defeat for Farage at this stage kills the BP momentum (much as is it did with UKIP). Lessons have clearly been learned.
 
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