People getting racially abused because of the referendum result

[keybored]

There's absolutely nothing to suggest that this had anything to do with the referendum outcome and is more than likely just a random racist fuckwit.

If people now attribute every reported act of racism to Brexit the genuine cases of referendum-driven bigotry are going to be rubbished.

I thought this tweet was highly misleading, considering the incident.

 

[phildwyer]

I'm not making a comparison. I'm suggesting that racist rhetoric is the first step towards conflict.

Nonsense. Wars have more serious causes than that.

FFS, how did we get into such a state that using the word "chinky" is considered a crime against humanity?

 

[Coolfonz]

An EU supporter, who just voted for a white countries only immigration policy, Fortress Europe, immigration prisons and refugee camps?

Who has a white only immigration policy? The UK? More non-EU folk came to the UK last year than Europeans, and are all Europeans white? Loads of the people getting abuse, firebombs in halal butchers, have nothing to do with the EU, nothing to do with the vote, were born here.

 

[Coolfonz]

I don't get that from the post. I get that they are saying you need to take responsibility for what you did if you voted out when you realised that the potential consequences included this, what is being reported again and again on this thread.

Agree.

 

[Coolfonz]

Nonsense. Wars have more serious causes than that.

FFS, how did we get into such a state that using the word "chinky" is considered a crime against humanity?

If you really think that bullshit. Go to your local Chinese restaurant and explain it. Don't hide behind the fucking keyboard.

 

[phildwyer]

If you really think that bullshit. Go to your local Chinese restaurant and explain it. Don't hide behind the fucking keyboard.

I don't need to go to a Chinese restaurant to meet Chinese people. I'm in China. No-one here gives a toss what you call them. They are sensible people who know what's really important, unlike some.

 

[Treacle Toes]

I'm in China. No-one here gives a toss what you call them. .

Utterly self-important, patronising, nonsense.

 

[Coolfonz]

I don't need to go to a Chinese restaurant to meet Chinese people. I'm in China. No-one here gives a toss what you call them. They are sensible people who know what's really important, unlike some.

Wanker. Really is scratch-an-old-lefty-and-what-do-you-get moment this thread.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Wanker. Really is scratch-an-old-lefty-and-what-do-you-get moment this thread.

I don't believe Phil ever was a lefty.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I don't need to go to a Chinese restaurant to meet Chinese people. I'm in China. No-one here gives a toss what you call them. They are sensible people who know what's really important, unlike some.

This is a staggeringly ignorant post. Do you understand nothing of what racism is and how it affects people? Of course people in China aren't affected by racist words in the same way as people of Chinese heritage are affected in countries where they are in a minority with a history of racism directed towards them.

Really, a very very stupid post.

 

[IC3D]

God bothering Turkish Nationalist surely?

 

[Coolfonz]

`Boris for PM` FB `Javid is a muslim do you want him as chancellor` http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/29/boris-for … t-5973903/

German woman in tears over abuse, shit thrown at her house http://www.lbc.co.uk/im-so-scared-now-g … ars-132971

 

[phildwyer]

Wanker. Really is scratch-an-old-lefty-and-what-do-you-get moment this thread.

Tosser. You allow trivialities to obscure substantive issues.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Right everyone, Phil has spoken. Racism isn't important.

 

[Coolfonz]

Tosser. You allow trivialities to obscure substantive issues.

To you racist abuse is trivial, says it all you nationalist weirdo.

 

[phildwyer]

Of course people in China aren't affected by racist words in the same way as people of Chinese heritage are affected in countries where they are in a minority with a history of racism directed towards them.

It was Coolfonz's assumption that the only place to meet Chinese people was in a Chinese restaurant that I found risible. And, now that you come to mention it, racist.

 

[phildwyer]

To you racist abuse is trivial, says it all you nationalist weirdo.

You're the racist here. Why don't you go down your local "Chinese restaurant" and ask them what they think?

 

[Coolfonz]

It was Coolfonz's assumption that the only place to meet Chinese people was in a Chinese restaurant that I found risible. And, now that you come to mention it, racist.

Desperate lying nationalist prick to whom racist abuse is `trivial`.

 

[bi0boy]

I have him on ignore, kindly resist the temptation to refer to him or his trolling attempts please

 

[Treacle Toes]

Every thread you get involved with, without fail you twist and make about yourself Phil.

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't need to go to a Chinese restaurant to meet Chinese people. I'm in China. No-one here gives a toss what you call them. They are sensible people who know what's really important, unlike some.

Why not ask some minority Chinese about their experiences of han racism?

 

[YouSir]

Oh stop it the pair of you. Serious topic, act like it.

 

[phildwyer]

Desperate lying nationalist prick to whom racist abuse is `trivial`.

Racist wanker who thinks Chinese people all live in restaurants. Or laundries.

 

[YouSir]

Oh stop it the pair of you. Serious topic, act like it.

I don't know why you're liking this Phildwyer, I meant you too.

 

[Anju]

Racist wanker who thinks Chinese people all live in restaurants. Or laundries.

Please don't do this. I posted something because I was unhappy with the lack of criticism of Farrage and UKIP during the campaign and then discovered that people actually seemed to think that some racism is an acceptable reaction to what our government has done to this country. It is not and if people are happy to excuse racism on political ideological grounds that are totally disconnected from peoples day to day experiences I am disgusted by that.

People jumped into bed with Nigel and the country has come away with a nasty disease. I just didn't see any concerted effort to distance leave from UKIP when it should have been a priority.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It was Coolfonz's assumption that the only place to meet Chinese people was in a Chinese restaurant that I found risible. And, now that you come to mention it, racist.

That doesn't make your post any less stupid.

 

[phildwyer]

Please don't do this. I posted something because I was unhappy with the lack of criticism of Farrage and UKIP during the campaign and then discovered that people actually seemed to think that some racism is an acceptable reaction to what our government has done to this country. It is not and if people are happy to excuse racism on political ideological grounds that are totally disconnected from peoples day to day experiences I am disgusted by that.

People jumped into bed with Nigel and the country has come away with a nasty disease. I just didn't see any concerted effort to distance leave from UKIP when it should have been a priority.

Oh no you don't.

You smeared Leave voters by association with Farage. You did so on the grounds that he supposedly defended someone who once used the word "chinky." I pointed out that, by the same logic, Remain voters could be smeared by association with Cameron, who is guilty of far worse than that by anyone's estimation (with the single silly exception of Coolfonz).

So it was a pretty daft thing for you to say really.

 

[danny la rouge]

Something happened for sure - but that something was blown out of all proportion by the " liberal confirmation bias." danny mentioned. That's what i was confirming. The long running results of that bias is that i don't think a year has passed since that article was written in which it's not been posted in response to someone saying what about that paedo they burnt out/hung in newport/portsmouth etc. It's almost became expected - me and danny were, i think acting a little bit in expectation of where this was going and what was going to be posted.

Yup. And it's true that I was more reacting to that history than actually reading the post properly, Whagwan. You said the graffito happened. You're right, it did. I was already racing ahead to the "pitchforks and mobs" fiction that usually appears, but in this case did not. I tender my apology.

 

[danny la rouge]

However, you can be involved in helping build a reaction to this shit. There was an incident in north bristol last night - as result the people i work with politically are contacting local polish groups to see what help they want right now. I know damn well the poles here can mostly look after themselves physically but some visible public support and practical help if required immediately (if you know what i mean) is probably welcome. And everyone here using it to attack leavers - make sure you do the same at the very least.

Precisely.

 

[Anju]

Oh no you don't.

You smeared Leave voters by association with Farage. You did so on the grounds that he supposedly defended someone who once used the word "chinky." I pointed out that, by the same logic, Remain voters could be smeared by association with Cameron, who is guilty of far worse than that by anyone's estimation (with the single silly exception of Coolfonz).

So it was a pretty daft thing for you to say really.

Yes our government has done terrible things but I will admit I am ashamed that we went to war in Iraq, bombed Syria, sold arms to Saudi Arabia and other countries, that we are complicit in the murder of innocent men, women and children. Leave voters should at least admit that they have had an impact on making racism more acceptable in this country. Or would you rather stick your head in the sand because your personal feelings are more important.