Will the election result finally result in ditching "First Past The Post?"

[Saul Goodman]

But it's not that great of an achievement to get served at a bar. I imagine millions of people get served at a bar every day in the UK, let alone the whole world.

It used to be when I was 14.

 

[Sue]

I mean, it sounds like Sue would have great difficulty in qualifying for membership of the Anarchist Communist Dope-Smoking Football-Watching Federation. Might still be in with a chance of joining our deadly rivals, the Anarchist Communist Lager-Drinking Cricket-Watching Group, though.

Cricket ffs. That's much worse than football.

I tried to found the Anarchist Communist, sober, spectator-sports-avoiding, jazz-loving, Whovian, Zen-practising, vegan-adjacent vegetarian, home coffee grinding, alt rock guitar playing, but weirdly nerdy about elections Group, but couldn’t get any takers.

Jazz though. (I can get behind the veggie/vegan coffee bit though.)

Seriously though, this thread is astonishing.

 

[Pickman's model]

40% of the population are not anarchists, anarchist probably make up less than 0.04% of the population it's an affectation. More typical of the non-voter is my next door neighbour, who I think he has never voted in his 51 years of life, he has no interest whatsoever in politics, doesn't understand it, he's only interested in football and smoking dope.

you don't understand what examples are do you

 

[emanymton]

Cricket ffs. That's much worse than football.

At least a football match is over in 90 mins or so, and doesn't drag on for 2 weeks like cricket.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Cricket ffs. That's much worse than football.

Sorry, but I must disagree. Nothing is worse than football. Even golf is is better than football, and that's just grass-sky-grass with walking.

 

[hitmouse]

So did we ever find out if Starmer is any good at watercolours, then?

 

[danny la rouge]

So did we ever find out if Starmer is any good at watercolours, then?

He does play the flute, which should stand him in good stead with certain Glasgow residents.

 

[moochedit]

He does play the flute, which should stand him in good stead with certain Glasgow residents.

Yes but can he make tools?

 

[Sasaferrato]

The huge problem with PR is that it gives people like Farage disproportionate influence.

If you want to see the outcome of sort of PR, have a look at the damage the bought in Greens did in the Scottish parliament.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

I would not scrap the House of Lords I would just make it better. I would make it into a House of Experts. I don't see what the point of replicating the House of Commons i.e., the same people, the same parties, it'll just be a duplication of the House of Commons no change, no improvement.

Who would decide which Experts would be in the House of Experts?

 

[Hotel Chocolate]

People in the House of Lords are already appointed, just appoint experts instead. I reiterate, the House of Lords has no powers all it does is revise laws made by the House of Commons and it I think can only do it once.

 

[Pickman's model]

Who would decide which Experts would be in the House of Experts?

hotel chocolate, whose views are as much use as a chocolate tea...

oh

 

[Pickman's model]

When people in the House of Lords are already appointed just appoint experts instead. I reiterate, the House of Lords has no powers all it does is revise laws made by the House of Commons and it I think can only do it once.

yeh you don't remember rwanda do you. perhaps you should educate yourself so you don't come across as the opposite of an expert.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

People in the House of Lords are already appointed, just appoint experts instead. I reiterate, the House of Lords has no powers all it does is revise laws made by the House of Commons and it I think can only do it once.

So you want the Experts to be appointed by the king, on the advice of the prime minister?

 

[Hotel Chocolate]

Yup.

I imagine the prime minister is advised on who to appoint to the House of Lords already.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yup.

and you don't see any issues with that

 

[danny la rouge]

I want the king to be dethroned, on the advice of grow the fuck up Britain, and all privileges of the family removed.

Now that I’m old and mellow, I don’t require their execution.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yup.

I imagine the prime minister is advised on who to appoint to the House of Lords already.

this would be the king who asked jimmy savile for marriage advice. perhaps on the advice of the then pm

 

[Pickman's model]

I want the king to be dethroned, on the advice of grow the fuck up Britain, and all privileges of the family removed.

Now that I’m old and mellow, I don’t require their execution.

i'm not sure you'll have the say-so on whether or not their heads are lopped

 

[danny la rouge]

i'm not sure you'll have the say-so on whether or not their heads are lopped

I’ll offer my advice, though.

 

[Pickman's model]

I’ll offer my advice, though.

and i'm sure the tribunal of public safety will give it the consideration it merits

 

[InArduisFouette]

I do wonder how many people would be so quick to vote for Farage's mob if they knew they would get into parliament as a result.

i think it's fairly safe to say that in the constituency I reside in, the Reform vote is almost certainly entirely pissed off Tories based on the loss of votes for the incumbant Selfservative (who is a misogynistic homophobe and transphobe despite being female and a Health Professional )

the lib Dems did poorly this time round by the labout vote and the Green vote and the local 'not a party' grouping;s vote went up

Reform were soundly into 3rd betwene the Tories and Labour though

 

[Sue]

So did we ever find out if Starmer is any good at watercolours, then?

And we probably need to know his stance on queueing at the bar and setting fire to government buildings too.

 

[InArduisFouette]

I do suspect that any PR system will come with a proposal that it be for the second chamber , allowing by regional party lists the ability to reward those who have done their time in parliament or have been useful idiots to whichever party

 

[Pickman's model]

i think it's fairly safe to say that in the constituency I reside in, the Reform vote is almost certainly entirely pissed off Tories based on the loss of votes for the incumbant Selfservative (who is a misogynistic homophobe and transphobe despite being female and a Health Professional )

the lib Dems did poorly this time round by the labout vote and the Green vote and the local 'not a party' grouping;s vote went up

Reform were soundly into 3rd betwene the Tories and Labour though

this time. i wonder how reform will do next time. quite possibly swapping places with the tories in terms of number of votes

 

[Hotel Chocolate]

If we do have an elected second chamber and it is elected using PR, then it would have more legitimacy than the House of Commons. I think PR will come first.

 

[Pickman's model]

If we do have an elected second chamber and it is elected using PR, then it would have more legitimacy than the House of Commons. I think PR will come first.

Go on hold your breath

 

[Hotel Chocolate]

Are you trying to be funny?

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Might still be in with a chance of joining our deadly rivals, the Anarchist Communist Lager-Drinking Cricket-Watching Group, though.

maybe that's the answer.

have parliamentary elections on the duckworth lewis system

 

[Pickman's model]

Are you trying to be funny?

Even if I was a veritable Eric morecambe I couldn't achieve the summits of hilarity you've achieved on this thread, tho I'm not persuaded you intended the effect