Kemi Badenoch discussion

[Elpenor]

Just had to check which Tennant. Thought it was Neil for a bit

 

[Chz]

Just had to check which Tennant. Thought it was Neil for a bit

I'm sure he feels the same, if anyone thought to ask him.
He was a big New Labour backer, so probably not welcome here. But I can't imagine he'd think much of Badenoch. Although he did say:

the Labour project could do with an infusion of idealism

before the election.

 

[steeplejack]

At the end of the day this is a petty squable of who gets to be the 2020s William Hague for a bit.

Whoever next leads the Tory party won't be the next Prime Minister.

I'm looking forward to the day when the newly elected "Leader of Barely the Opposition" becomes a largely forgotten political footnote, as Hague is.

 

[BristolEcho]

Conservative Party members are more racist and right-wing than Conservative voters in particular the Radio 4/National Trust types in the home counties homeland.

Do you mean that radio 4 /national trust types are more racist or?

I don't listen to it or have a NT pass so not being defensive just wasn't sure.

 

[maomao]

At the end of the day this is a petty squable of who gets to be the 2020s William Hague for a bit.

Whoever next leads the Tory party won't be the next Prime Minister.

I'm looking forward to the day when the newly elected "Leader of Barely the Opposition" becomes a largely forgotten political footnote, as Hague is.

Yes but they'll get to be Foreign Secretary or something when the blue dawn arrives.

 

[likesfish]

some right wing types are claiming the British public want a genuine right wing option.

think mostly they want someone whose competant and not corrupt or at least not obviously corrupt unfortunately that appears to be too much to ask.

 

[InArduisFouette]

Do you mean that radio 4 /national trust types are more racist or?

I don't listen to it or have a NT pass so not being defensive just wasn't sure.

i think the post suggests that many of the people who have voted conservative even in the period 2015 to 2024 were 'one nation tories' the people who would agreed with the sentiments that Ken Clarke and michael Heseltine expressed about ' if i were a young man now , i would not be joining the Conservative party ' ... it would be interestign to see what a (original )SDP - like (not the new fash one) party would do coming from the one nation tory side of things rather than the centrist end of Labour

 

[PTK]

I would imagine that more than a few of the "Tory backwoods persons" as once they were known, would dislike much of the output of Radio 4.

 

[tim]

National Trust Tory voters are likely to be less racist than the average signed up party member, in my opinion.

 

[8ball]

<ignore - misread something>

 

[krtek a houby]

I doubt people realise just how racist Conservative supporters are. Badenock wins as expected and droves will move to voting reform.

Sorry to be that person, but it's Badenoch.

 

[Lotte]

I doubt people realise just how racist Conservative supporters are. Badenock wins as expected and droves will move to voting reform.

You sure? They might make exception for her because she's ~one of the good ones~.

 

[TopCat]

Sorry to be that person, but it's Badenoch.

I will call her bumflaps if I want

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

Steaming turd of an article from current chief TERF at the Graun, Sodha, which could be shortened to “I’m not an apologist for Badenoch really, but like me she hates the transes, which I think is really, really popular.”

Kemi Badenoch is no cartoon villain. Labour underestimates her at its peril | Sonia Sodha

The favourite to win the leadership contest should give the left pause for thought on diversity

www.theguardian.com

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Steaming turd of an article from current chief TERF at the Graun, Sodha, which could be shortened to “I’m not an apologist for Badenoch really, but like me she hates the transes, which I think is really, really popular.”

Kemi Badenoch is no cartoon villain. Labour underestimates her at its peril | Sonia Sodha

The favourite to win the leadership contest should give the left pause for thought on diversity

www.theguardian.com

I thought that was an interesting article. Certainly didn't see anything hateful.

 

[PTK]

Steaming turd of an article from current chief TERF at the Graun, Sodha, which could be shortened to “I’m not an apologist for Badenoch really, but like me she hates the transes, which I think is really, really popular.”

Kemi Badenoch is no cartoon villain. Labour underestimates her at its peril | Sonia Sodha

The favourite to win the leadership contest should give the left pause for thought on diversity

www.theguardian.com

"When the struggle in the first years of opposition is to get any airtime at all, "
Really?

 

[TopCat]

I thought that was an interesting article. Certainly didn't see anything hateful.

She got her anti trans dig in.

 

[stethoscope]

Sodha will be writing in the Telegraph or the Times in another year or two, mark my words.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I thought that was an interesting article. Certainly didn't see anything hateful.

But on the fraught issue of sex and gender, her position is not, in the main, out of step with the public and she may be able to embarrass Starmer, who has in the past shown bewildering levels of prevarication on whether biological sex matters when it comes to single-sex services, sports and spaces.

For 'the public' read, 'weird trans-obsessed ghouls like me and my friends'.

As usual, Sodha seems to feel no cognitive dissonance at all when saying, 'this woman is a far-right loon' and, 'she agrees with me about trans people' in the same breath. This suggests she knows she's also peddling a far-right ideology and simply doesn't care because getting revenge on all the trans people who hurt her is more important.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Sodha will be writing in the Telegraph or the Times in another year or two, mark my words.

I'm looking forward to her Hadley Freeman-esque 'you're all too unethical, I'm off to work for Murdoch' flounce.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I will call her bumflaps if I want

This lacks the required specificity, I fear.

 

[Lotte]

Super feminist heroine Badenoch also wants to cut maternity pay, but who cares about that, she hates trans people so she's the best choice for Tory leader.

 

[TopCat]

Who gets to choose now? Is it just members or Tory mps as well?

 

[PTK]

Who gets to choose now? Is it just members or Tory mps as well?

It is the members.

 

[InArduisFouette]

I thought that was an interesting article. Certainly didn't see anything hateful.

what a surprise, you once again demonstrate your credentials in this regard by sucking up to known and avowed misogynists and transphobes ...

 

[InArduisFouette]

She got her anti trans dig in.

which in the case of Elizabeth will either be conveniently ignored or tactily agreed with - she has form on this regard... although mainly dogwhistles unlike some of the more vocal misogynstic and transphobic bigots of this parish

 

[BusLanes]

"When the struggle in the first years of opposition is to get any airtime at all, "
Really?

Yeah they've not struggled at all to get in the news since their historic defeat.

 

[PTK]

Yeah they've not struggled at all to get in the news since their historic defeat.

The BBC and ITN and Sky are always reporting the Conservative Party point of view.

 

[BusLanes]

The BBC and ITN and Sky are always reporting the Conservative Party point of view.

Or just getting them on regular shows. Even ex MPs on regulary.

Although I am noticing more LD and Greens on bbc shows at least

 

[ElizabethofYork]

what a surprise, you once again demonstrate your credentials in this regard by sucking up to known and avowed misogynists and transphobes ...

Could you quote where i have 'sucked up'? Thanks.