goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
You've clearly never been on strike in your life, you private healthcare cunt.
Junior doctors strike back on
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You've clearly never been on strike in your life, you private healthcare cunt.
I'm just pointing out that comparisons with the miners strike etc are so wide of the mark it's unreal.
bimble
floofy
You're just having a laugh aren't you Leslie, you utter fuckwit. You do realise that the future if Hunt wins will mean the NHS (whilst it still exists) will have to import all its doctors, right? And you wouldn't like that would you.
I could never afford private healthcare in a million years. The point is, they are letting down the people, like me, who pay their salaries.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
You're really not.
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
Fuck off you trolling cunt.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
You've never been on a picket in your life. One of those who always has the 'i support strikes but not this one' set of excuses. Buys the donuts on his way in as waltzes past striking workers. The realist.
the MS comparison was being made in terms of the government picking a fight as you know. Not a like-for-like direct 'these are exactly the same'.
Oh the poor dear. I expect she will make a full recovery.
Didums. Is that supposed to make me change my mind. I'll bet lots of people who had operations cancelled were crying too- both in sadness, frustration and pain.
2hats
Dust.
That's precisely what I was thinking about this government and the egregious Mr cHunt.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Do carry on being blinded by your stereotypical judgements. If these people ARE just fresh faced middle class kids, that could just be something to do with the fact that, contrary to their propaganda, this government has done its level best to pull up the ladder and make it impossible for anyone from a background in which money is not plentiful to get into medical school and qualify as a doctor. And that situation's only going to get worse, particularly as more and more young professionals, faced with eroding salaries and support from employers, require private means (or the bank of mum and dad) to survive.
And it'll be Justin or one of his friends who, in between jolly japes, is putting your face back together next time you step on your own dick and faceplant the pavement. I suspect you won't be sneering at their fresh-facedness or middle class ways then.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
It's the fucking government that's trying to paint this as some kind of struggle against overweening union militancy, you nobend.
Probably the only post I've read from your side of the argument I agree with.
But I still think doctors should have to work weekends. Just like the rest of the NHS, and quite a bit of the rest of the workforce.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Doctors are working weekends.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
You're either trolling or you've swallowed Hunt's lies uncritically. Given your comments on other issues, I'd say the latter.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Not mutually exclusive.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
You're one confused fuckwit.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
It takes about 5 years to qualify as a vet.
It takes less than that to qualify as a lawyer, depending on which branch of the law you follow.
Neither of them are anywhere near as long as it takes to become a consultant, and neither of them are forced into weekend working, and professional fees and academic fees, as well as repaying student loans.
bimble
floofy
There's that plus the 'those immigrants coming over here' theme, but I'd err on the side of troll.
re: weekend working, the author of one of the key papers being used to justify the government's position posted this on the the junior Dr's facebook group:
I can reiterate as senior author on the Ozdemir paper the study could NEVER have shown that higher staffing on weekends reduced mortality. We did not have staffing levels by day of the week but aggregated data over a time period, so we didn't even investigate this. The data have been continually misrepresented. I have put this in writing to SoS, Heidi Alexander and Health Select Committee. I have asked the latter for a minuted retraction of the way in which the evidence is being used and acknowledgement of this. No replys so far.
I can reiterate as senior author on the Ozdemir paper the study could NEVER have shown that higher staffing on weekends reduced mortality. We did not have staffing levels by day of the week but aggregated data over a time period, so we didn't even investigate this. The data have been continually misrepresented. I have put this in writing to SoS, Heidi Alexander and Health Select Committee. I have asked the latter for a minuted retraction of the way in which the evidence is being used and acknowledgement of this. No replys so far.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
A Kipper troll, then?
No, not really. I did vote for them in the 2014 Euros but I voted for Labour last time, largely because I liked my local MP.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Why did you vote UKIP in the Euros?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
They're not that clever, are they? 'kippers seem to struggle to hold one thought in their heads, let alone perform the artifice necessary to troll effectively.A Kipper troll, then?
I think LeslieB is the classic example of the character who's not nearly as clever as he'd like to think he is, and nowhere near as clever as he needs to be...
Completely off topic for this thread. I wanted an EU referendum. I have got one. Simples.
binka
!!!!!!!!!
A friend of mine at work had her hernia op cancelled because of the strike. She has a chronic illness which means she uses the nhs on a monthly basis and ends up being hospitalised every couple of years. She fully supports the junior doctors strike because she's not a dickhead.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Conversations are like that sometimes.
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