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You're just having a laugh aren't you Leslie, you utter fuckwit. You do realise that the future if Hunt wins will mean the NHS (whilst it still exists) will have to import all its doctors, right? And you wouldn't like that would you.
No. I'm genuinely sick and tired of it. We've taken hundreds of thousands if not millions of immigrants and I've had enough.
 
My mate told me when she left the picket line on Tuesday that her feet were so cold she couldn't feel them anymore. She was crying the next day when Hunt imposed the contract. Larks.
 
I'm just pointing out that comparisons with the miners strike etc are so wide of the mark it's unreal.
You've never been on a picket in your life. One of those who always has the 'i support strikes but not this one' set of excuses. Buys the donuts on his way in as waltzes past striking workers. The realist.

the MS comparison was being made in terms of the government picking a fight as you know. Not a like-for-like direct 'these are exactly the same'.
 
My mate told me when she left the picket line on Tuesday that her feet were so cold she couldn't feel them anymore.
Oh the poor dear. I expect she will make a full recovery.

She was crying the next day when Hunt imposed the contract. Larks.
Didums. Is that supposed to make me change my mind. I'll bet lots of people who had operations cancelled were crying too- both in sadness, frustration and pain.
 
In the photo above I see nothing but fresh faced middle class kids who are treating this all as a big lark. Oh what jolly japes we are having, Justin!
Do carry on being blinded by your stereotypical judgements. If these people ARE just fresh faced middle class kids, that could just be something to do with the fact that, contrary to their propaganda, this government has done its level best to pull up the ladder and make it impossible for anyone from a background in which money is not plentiful to get into medical school and qualify as a doctor. And that situation's only going to get worse, particularly as more and more young professionals, faced with eroding salaries and support from employers, require private means (or the bank of mum and dad) to survive.

And it'll be Justin or one of his friends who, in between jolly japes, is putting your face back together next time you step on your own dick and faceplant the pavement. I suspect you won't be sneering at their fresh-facedness or middle class ways then.
 
Do carry on being blinded by your stereotypical judgements. If these people ARE just fresh faced middle class kids, that could just be something to do with the fact that, contrary to their propaganda, this government has done its level best to pull up the ladder and make it impossible for anyone from a background in which money is not plentiful to get into medical school and qualify as a doctor. And that situation's only going to get worse, particularly as more and more young professionals, faced with eroding salaries and support from employers, require private means (or the bank of mum and dad) to survive.

And it'll be Justin or one of his friends who, in between jolly japes, is putting your face back together next time you step on your own dick and faceplant the pavement. I suspect you won't be sneering at their fresh-facedness or middle class ways then.

Probably the only post I've read from your side of the argument I agree with.

But I still think doctors should have to work weekends. Just like the rest of the NHS, and quite a bit of the rest of the workforce.
 
I haven't swallowed anything uncritically. However, yes, I'm on the governments side on this one. Gawd knows there is enough else I disagree with them on.
 
Law and vet science for two.
It takes about 5 years to qualify as a vet.

It takes less than that to qualify as a lawyer, depending on which branch of the law you follow.

Neither of them are anywhere near as long as it takes to become a consultant, and neither of them are forced into weekend working, and professional fees and academic fees, as well as repaying student loans.
 
re: weekend working, the author of one of the key papers being used to justify the government's position posted this on the the junior Dr's facebook group:

I can reiterate as senior author on the Ozdemir paper the study could NEVER have shown that higher staffing on weekends reduced mortality. We did not have staffing levels by day of the week but aggregated data over a time period, so we didn't even investigate this. The data have been continually misrepresented. I have put this in writing to SoS, Heidi Alexander and Health Select Committee. I have asked the latter for a minuted retraction of the way in which the evidence is being used and acknowledgement of this. No replys so far.
 
Didums. Is that supposed to make me change my mind. I'll bet lots of people who had operations cancelled were crying too- both in sadness, frustration and pain.
A friend of mine at work had her hernia op cancelled because of the strike. She has a chronic illness which means she uses the nhs on a monthly basis and ends up being hospitalised every couple of years. She fully supports the junior doctors strike because she's not a dickhead.
 
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