Junior doctors strike back on

[seventh bullet]

Rolling in it.

 

[LeslieB]

Rolling in it.

Obviously not, but it's (I would guess) about a 5% pay rise when inflation is fuck all.

The question is what will the living wage be next year.

 

[DotCommunist]

We often talk about how lacking in power our union is (supermarket worker here). With the new 'living wage' coming in the deal is that we lose our bigger hourly rate for weekends and no more paid breaks, meaning we're only going to be about fifty quid better off each month. I'm not so sure seeing other people striking and going 'my conditions are shit so everyone else's should be as well' is going to help matters, really.

useless seven days a week ?

never even joined the union when I was at retail. pointless in a small firm. In bigger outfits I suppose they at least act as wage negotiators on a national scale. You'd hope so anyway

 

[seventh bullet]

Obviously not, but it's (I would guess) about a 5% pay rise when inflation is fuck all.

The question is what will the living wage be next year.

Be grateful prole.

 

[LeslieB]

Oh as Hatboy once said "this is futile"

 

[J Ed]

useless seven days a week aka useless wankers,shits and dickheads?

never even joined the union whe I was at retail. pointless in a small firm. In bigger outfits I suppose they at least act as wage negotiators on a national scale. You'd hope so anyway

No one has said anything about them to me, I work in one of the smaller supermarkets (the bigger store nearby has a union presence) and I suppose that it is one of the advantages to the big supermarkets of having the smaller convenience stores, easier to monitor union activity.

 

[butchersapron]

Oh as Hatboy once said "this is futile"

Just leave.

 

[killer b]

Do they dare take on the legal profession too?

Isn't that what Grayling's already done? Gove's rolling back some of the shit so they think they've had some victories, but it's mostly cosmetic: the big money changes to legal aid, judicial review etc are still in place.

 

[ViolentPanda]

serious question. If there was a 'junior bankers' strike taking place in the City of London, how many people on this thread would support it?

After all, how does attacking the terms and conditions of junior bankers help security guards, receptionists and those that clean their offices?

Are "junior bankers" public servants, du arschloch?

 

[ViolentPanda]

ah so it wasn't just my imagination then

Nope. bear in mind that basic neoliberal ideology gives maximum power to the bosses, and minimum power to the workers, and in this context "workers" means anyone salaried by the state, whether you're a part-time filing clerk for a local authority, or a Whitehall Mandarin. Remember that the unions bill currently going through Parliament wants to limit collective bargaining. That's probably going to be the other side of this battle - impose the contract to set a precedent, and legislate the erosion of collective bargaining so that any fightback, from anywhere, is fractured.

 

[ViolentPanda]

a strike is called. in any sector. The response options

a)managment fucking people again, must have pushed them right to it if they are giving up the days pay. Hope they get a result

b) Are we sure this is right? its going to inconvenience me and what about the wider implications of safety on that day?

c) fuck them I don't get weekend rates so neither should anyone else

which side are you on boys etc

a), every bloody time. Anyone answering with b) or c) condemns themselves as a selfish, grasping amoeba-brained shit-stain.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Isn't that what Grayling's already done? Gove's rolling back some of the shit so they think they've had some victories, but it's mostly cosmetic: the big money changes to legal aid, judicial review etc are still in place.

And as an acquaintance who's a former solicitor said to me last week, "a lot of the criminal law firms that made their bread and butter from Legal Aid are already dead and gone, or have had to amalgamate with two or three other firms just to keep going in the short term". The Coalition cuts made her walk away from a job she loved, because the stress was doing her head in.

 

[existentialist]

Oh as Hatboy once said "this is futile"

I couldn't agree more.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

This is fairly damning, from the NAO



Surely an institution like the NHS should be doing capacity planning for staff levels as an annual exercise, at the very least?

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Hospitals may refuse to impose Jeremy Hunt’s new contract on junior doctors

Interesting!

 

[Sasaferrato]

That you're a scab-licking shitcunt?

No. That they are stating fact.

The striking doctors are scum. No other word adequately describes them.

 

[J Ed]

No. That they are stating fact.

The striking doctors are scum. No other word adequately describes them.

disgusting

 

[Mr.Bishie]

No. That they are stating fact.

The striking doctors are scum. No other word adequately describes them.

Fuck off Sass - & that's being nice

 

[Sasaferrato]

a), every bloody time. Anyone answering with b) or c) condemns themselves as a selfish, grasping amoeba-brained shit-stain.

No. The ameoba brained shit are those who took training place from someone who would have become a doctor because they actually wanted to care for patients.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Sherry?

 

[Sasaferrato]

Fuck off Sass - & that's being nice

Scum. Utter fucking scum.
Now, you fuck off.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Scum. Utter fucking scum.
Now, you fuck off.

Sleep it off

 

[Mr.Bishie]

 

[Mr.Bishie]

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Whats say Sass?

An injury to one, is an injury to all.

 

[teqniq]

Well, knock me down with a feather.

Clever Trevor.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Whats say Sass?

An injury to one, is an injury to all.

Hunt is perfectly correct in imposing what is a perfectly reasonable contract. Have you had a 13% pay rise recently?

 

[Sprocket.]

What I cannot understand is how posters and people outside in the world can only see this as:
Scummy middle class spoilt doctors holding the country's sick to ransom over money.
And not:
The latest attack on the NHS which as been ongoing since the 1970s.
When all the doctors have left, become teachers or working in a call centre, the NHS collapses, the tories say, see told you so, sell what's left to their mates, get seats on the board and retire to spend their ill gotten gains on skiing and golf just to rub the poor, unemployed former NHS staff's noses in it.
They have done this to the shipyards, the docks, the steel industry, the print industry, the coal industry, anyone who stands up against them.
Remember in 84, they gave the police a massive pay rise to beat the miners?
Looks like the police may well be next.
Chickens coming home to roost.
They are starting to put the skids under them already.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Self serving shit.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Hunt is perfectly correct in imposing what is a perfectly reasonable contract. Have you had a 13% pay rise recently?

Playing low paid PS workers off against NHS junior doctors - 0/5