Israeli forces storm Gaza aid ship, and beat people on board. Fatalities reported.

[Johnny Canuck3]

Same as what I was doing. Ah well, I'm off to bed.

There's still time for one hour and forty minutes of beauty sleep.

 

[discokermit]

No, a nation of people much like other people,

except living on stolen land.

 

[dylans]

So they're 'fighters' now, as opposed to peaceful aid workers?

You expect the oppressed and powerless to behave like Ghandi while you excuse the violence of the powerful You remind me of Derf.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

This

Power to the People! brought to you by the internet users of the United Kingdom.

 

[little_legs]

It's very simple isn't it.

They end the blockade

They stop building settlements

They enter peace talks in good faith.

That's a start.

they weren't able to do that since the establishment of the stupid 'roadmap to peace'....

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

You expect the oppressed and powerless to behave like Ghandi while you excuse the violence of the powerful .

Do I?

For what it's worth, Gandhi seems to have gotten somewhere against the full evils of the British Empire.

 

[dylans]

they weren't able to do that since the establishment of the stupid 'roadmap to peace'....

Netanyahuh has no interest in peace. His agenda is clear, the cultural genocide of the Palestinians as a people. His final solution through starvation

 

[free spirit]

So they're 'fighters' now, as opposed to peaceful aid workers?

they were peaceful aid workers / protesters until the point when they were attacked.

At that point, some of them chose to defend themselves against armed attackers using whatever they had to hand as they were perfectly entitled to do

had they been going as fighters, then they'd have been heavily armed themselves and it'd have been the israelis going home in body bags.

 

[Spymaster]

noted

do you also think nobody should ever resist armed assailants, or are there instances where this is acceptable?

I think one should assess each situation on its merits.

Taking on armed Israeli commandos at 4am on the high seas comes pretty way down on my Risk/Reward'Odmeter.

 

[butchersapron]

Power to the People! brought to you by the internet users of the United Kingdom.

You're posting from Canada. Fuck off, next.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

they were peaceful aid workers / protesters until the point when they were attacked.

At that point, some of them chose to defend themselves against armed attackers using whatever they had to hand as they were perfectly entitled to do.

So, when faced with men with machine guns, they picked up hammers and ran at them? Or did they pick up the hammers when the Israelis were still carrying the paintball guns?

 

[dylans]

Do I?

For what it's worth, Gandhi seems to have gotten somewhere against the full evils of the British Empire.

You would have blamed the victims for Jallian Wala Bagh. They shouldn't have been there.

 

[teqniq]

why would they veto it? i would suspect they would be the very party to offer a contingent so their own military can see the humiliation of the palestinians for themselves.

Are you being disingenuous/sarcastic here? And in your last post:

because israel is clearly unable to manage aid deliveries to gaza

Please tell me you are.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

You're posting from Canada. Fuck off, next.

But I'm not bringing Power to the People!

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

You would have blamed the victims for Jallian Wala Bagh..

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[butchersapron]

I think one should assess each situation on its merits.

Taking on armed Israeli commandos at 4am on the high seas comes pretty way down on my Risk/Reward'Odmeter.

Taking on? What other options were there? beyond the fucking obvious one. And why not that one? Don't attack a boat at 4am - or at all.

 

[dylans]

But I'm not bringing Power to the People!

No you are just making excuses for murderers

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Taking on? What other options were there? .

Lie down, with hands behind head?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

No you are just making excuses for murderers

Like the British in India, you mean?

 

[Bernie Gunther]

I think behind the scenes there are probably some harsher exchanges going on than we know about.

Sure ...

"So Bibi, welcome to the Oval Office, here's a cigar. Light up while I put on the blue dress. I'll be Monica and you can be Bill' *kneels*

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Or the British in Ireland, you mean?

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

From what I know of maritime/international law, it's illegal to board vessels in international waters without provocation, killing passengers in the process.

So Israel has acted illegally in your opinion?

 

[little_legs]

Are you being disingenuous/sarcastic here? And in your last post: Please tell me you are.

i am not being either. the us helped to set up israel and his been supportive of israel, why not offer peace keepers?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Or the British in Kenya, you mean?

 

[dylans]

Lie down, with hands behind head?

Move to the back of the bus

Eat in the coloured section of the restaurant

Walk into the gas chambers

 

[DotCommunist]

Lie down, with hands behind head?

they were already lying down, with heads on pillows before the baton rounds woke them up.

 

[Spymaster]

Lie down, with hands behind head?

This one!

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

So Israel has acted illegally in your opinion?

Yes?

 

[dylans]

Like the British in India, you mean?

Do you see me excusing them?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

they were already lying down, with heads on pillows before the baton rounds woke them up.

Well then stay down for fuck's sake, and don't pick up that hammer!