Israel in coordinated missile attacks on Gaza

[Aldebaran]

Anti Zionists -- Fuck you.

I'm not used to lower myself to the level of the opponent or to ever use such language, but now I am glad to grab the occasion:

The way you present yourself here, you are nothing but a lower species that likes to pass for human.

May you somewhere in your life find peace, after you grew up to learn what it is like to be human.

salaam

 

[Balbi]

It's like butchersapron took all of the middle class white kid out of my post

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Zachor

I am towards the pacifist end of the spectrum and am am also fairly ignorant of the techincalities of modern warfare.

That said, could you explain to us how depleted uranium is neccessary to tackle rudimentary rocket launchers?

 

[Balbi]

Israel on BBC24 announcing they're setting up a Humanitarian Corridor.

And now the whole thing is the fault of Hamas. Naturally.

Oh fuck, they just brought Syria into the party for harbouring.

 

[audiotech]

I like any reasonable person are grieving for the loss of innocent lives but I'm afraid that is war..

This is not 'war' in the sense that two armies are facing each other on a battlefield you cretin.

 

[8ball]

Zachor

I am towards the pacifist end of the spectrum and am am also fairly ignorant of the techincalities of modern warfare.

That said, could you explain to us how depleted uranium is neccessary to tackle rudimentary rocket launchers?

It's not necessary, but it is effective.

And the Americans are paying for it so, hell, let's bring out the big toys!

 

[N_igma]

The Palestinian people must rise and attack!!!

 

[Balbi]

Iran is the 'cowards, coward'. Not standing with Israel will embolden Hamas. (all from Israel at the U.N)

The current military operation is not an opposition to peace, it is a pre-requisite for peace.

 

[hipipol]

Then after Hamas are no more rebuild Gaza. Lance the boil of hatred.

You do realise that you may single handedly create the feelings you seem to detect in all?

 

[Balbi]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7459669.stm

Live from the U.N. Milliband on now.

 

[hipipol]

Iran is the 'cowards, coward'. Not standing with Israel will embolden Hamas. (all from Israel at the U.N)

The current military operation is not an opposition to peace, it is a pre-requisite for peace.

Has your medication run out?

 

[Balbi]

No hip, that was verbatim from the Israeli ambassador at the U.N.

I just posted the link from the BBC.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Dr. Mads Gilbert - a Norwegian Doctor, quote found on in*ow*rs:

"The Israelis are using a new type of very high explosive weapons which are called Dense Inert Metal Explosive (DIME) and are made out of a tungsten alloy. These weapons have an enormous power to explode."

"these weapons will have a cancer effect on those who survive. They will develop cancer we suspect."

"All that is happening in Gaza here now is against international law, it is against humanity"

 

[8ball]

Carcinogens are everywhere in modern weaponry. The point of DIME warheads is to actually limit collateral damage so I think there is limited opportunity to demonise the Israeli's in the fact that they are using these.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Carcinogens are everywhere in modern weaponry. The point of DIME warheads is to actually limit collateral damage so I think there is limited opportunity to demonise the Israeli's in the fact that they are using these.

Thanks for explaining. Does that mean that high tech masively explosive cancer causing weapons are being used out of consideration?

Is this a rare case of a war where arms dealers arent wishing show case new ways of killing people?

Why do you use the term 'colateral damage' btw, do you have an issue talking about dead civilians?

 

[8ball]

Sorry, dead civilians, then.

These weapons are very nasty, it's true, but they're very nasty over a much smaller range than conventional shells.

The arms dealers possibly want to showcase new ways of killing people without the regrettable bad PR caused by pictures coming out of people carrying dead children from buildings.

 

[claphamboy]

Anti Zionists -- Fuck you.

And fuck you - you sick motherfucker of a total cunt.

 

[agricola]

Sorry, dead civilians, then.

These weapons are very nasty, it's true, but they're very nasty over a much smaller range than conventional shells.

The arms dealers possibly want to showcase new ways of killing people without the regrettable bad PR caused by pictures coming out of people carrying dead children from buildings.

More info here (apologies if its already been posted): DIME weapons

 

[hipipol]

No hip, that was verbatim from the Israeli ambassador at the U.N.

I just posted the link from the BBC.

Sorry mate, thought you'd suddenly lost you marbles!!!!!

 

[Balbi]

Nah, I threw them at an IDF tank.

 

[belboid]

Good. Kill as many Hamas as possible. I never thought I would say that but I don't see any alternative.

Killing as many Hamas members and their supporters as the IDF can is the way to go now. Kill kiddies bomb schools bomb hospitals bomb everything they all support hamas, even the one year olds, they all must die

Anti Zionists -- Fuck you.

you really are scum of the lowest order, a worthless wanking gibbon

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Btw, Hamas hasn't been known to have a good track record on ceasefires, peace agreements, etc.

In the wake of the Oslo agreement, Hamas leaders intensified their rhetoric and vowed to derail the peace process through violent attacks. Drive-by shootings, firebombings and stabbings increased. Suicide missions began in April 1994, when a Hamas suicide bomber rammed an explosives-laden car into a bus in Afula killing eight and wounding 50 others.

http://www.adl.org/main_israel/hamas_facts.htm

 

[belboid]

oh god, johnny's on google again. about something else he knows fuck all about

 

[frogwoman]

The BNP support Israel

Must be nice to align yourself with fascists who deny the holocaust to score political points ... oh, wait. only people who support the palestinians can do that.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

More info here (apologies if its already been posted): DIME weapons

Thanks for that. From which:

" An emerging criticism of DIME weapons is that the tungsten metal filler may turn out to have unexpected strong biological effects in those who are hit by the micro-shrapnel from DIME explosions."

What a suprise. Though I wonder if they really are "unexpected". 8ball was saying these were used to inflict less civilian deaths but it seems that, as with the use of DU, the Israelis arent too troubled about causing defects in people.

The use of DU is horrendous and unneccessary to the situation Israel says they are trying to deal with.

It is a smoking gun that their intention is more mendacious than just self defence. They are war criminals, and I honestly dont say that lightly. I consider Hamas war criminals too FWIW, but DU use is the bigger crime against a people than basic rockets.

 

[Luther Blissett]

Btw, Hamas hasn't been known to have a good track record on ceasefires, peace agreements, etc.

I think you are mistaking urbanites support and respect for democratic processes and our sympathy for the plight of ordinary Israelis and Palestinians who live with the daily threat of terror as wrongful or misplaced support for Hamas. This is not the case. The only way to remove Hamas is the same way they came to their position of power - via democratic election process.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I think you are mistaking urbanites support and respect for democratic processes and our sympathy for the plight of ordinary Israelis and Palestinians who live with the daily threat of terror as wrongful or misplaced support for Hamas. This is not the case. The only way to remove Hamas is the same way they came to their position of power - via democratic election process.

And of course, then they'll go away, because they didn't exist, and had no effect, prior to being elected.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I think you are mistaking urbanites support and respect for democratic processes

If that's what you support and respect, you must not support, and have no respect for, the majority of middle eastern governments.

Btw, the Israeli govt is elected, you know.

 

[Dimitris]

http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2479079.0.inside_gaza.php

 

[Barking_Mad]

It has been claimed it was.

There's lots of evidence to suggest it most likely was..