Israel in coordinated missile attacks on Gaza

[TAE]

By the way, I'm quite curious as to what the left-wing supporters of Hamas think of this.

You'd like to know what left-wing supporters of Hamas think of an article which accuses ALL sides ?

 

[hipipol]

By the way, I'm quite curious as to what the left-wing supporters of Hamas think of this.

Fatah and Israel dont some out of that story with much credit either

 

[belboid]

No, I said it was an escalation, I didn't say that it was either right or wrong. It's not my fault if facts upset you.

absolute nonsense. There weren't any 'facts' in your post. responding with less violence is NOT escalating. If you think they were wrong to retaliate the only way they could, you DO think they should just lie down and die.

And oppressed people lashing out against random civillians out of frustration is something socialists should be supporting, is it?

The fact of the matter is that whoever is responsible for the rocket attacks, they cannot defeat Israel militarily, it's suicide for them to even try.

I think it is the natural response, I look forward to you condemning anarchists throwing sticks and stones at the coppers next time that happens on a demo, as they cant win either. But you wont do that, cos you;'re a liberal hypocrite.

I only approve of things I approve of, what a horrible bastard I really am

What an arrogant wanker you are. Only you can be right, the people who actually have to live and suffer, their views are irrelevant, apparently.

 

[In Bloom]

You'd like to know what left-wing supporters of Hamas think of an article which accuses ALL sides ?

Yes. I'd like to know which side they support here, Hamas or the trade unionists who are under attack from a number of groups, including Hamas. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Israel's claims would be bordering on the comical if they were not so criminal. I just hope that many many ordinary citizens will start seeing the lies for what they are.

Oh, of course the Israeli spokesperson must be telling lies.

 

[TAE]

Well it's easy for me as I don't support any of the accused groups.

Besides, I thought 'the left' generally support the PLO (which more or less corresponds to Fatah).

 

[Aldebaran]

Sasaferato, what would you do, say, think if you were palestinian living in palestine all your life?

salaam.

 

[TAE]

Oh, of course the Israeli spokesperson must be telling lies.

Not must be, but given all the reports contradicting Israeli propaganda, most probably is.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Not even those you repeatedly refer to as "scum"?

I haven't claimed that you do.

Good for you.
Odd how you're willing to attack those Jews that don't agree with you by insinuating that they're fascists though, isn't it?

I am not accusing them, I'm condemning them. There is a difference.

 

[ViolentPanda]

By the way, I'm quite curious as to what the left-wing supporters of Hamas think of this.

I'm not a "left-wing supporter of Hamas", but I'll comment anyway.
I'm entirely unsurprised that promoters of authoritarian politics, whatever their type, are anti-union.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Not must be, but given all the reports contradicting Israeli propaganda, most probably is.

Oh well, no doubt you'll be right.

 

[In Bloom]

absolute nonsense. There weren't any 'facts' in your post. responding with less violence is NOT escalating. If you think they were wrong to retaliate the only way they could, you DO think they should just lie down and die.

I don't have any control over what goes on in Gaza. What I think should be happening is completely irrelevant.

I think it is the natural response, I look forward to you condemning anarchists throwing sticks and stones at the coppers next time that happens on a demo, as they cant win either. But you wont do that, cos you;'re a liberal hypocrite.

The really funny part of this is that I have said that anarchists starting rucks with the police without the numbers to win or a clear idea fo why they're doing it are stupid, I've said it on these boards numerous times, in fact.

What an arrogant wanker you are. Only you can be right, the people who actually have to live and suffer, their views are irrelevant, apparently.

So you support everything any group fighting against Western imperialism does, regardless of who they target or why they're doing it?

 

[ViolentPanda]

I am not accusing them, I'm condemning them. There is a difference.

So you're condemning me for being a fascist?

 

[Sasaferrato]

They also, albeit grudgingly, accept that they're the legitimately elected government of the Gaza strip.

A terrorist in government is still a terrorist.

It saddens me beyond belief when people do not support their own. Israel's response may be regarded as disproportional by some, but they are not subject to rocket fire landing absolutely randomly in their communities. Israel must do what it needs to do.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Oh well, no doubt you'll be right.

What else are spokespersons for, if not to add a "spin" to the basic facts?
The trick is to look beyond the spin to the basic information, and then draw your own conclusions.

Try it some time. You might actually like it.

 

[Sasaferrato]

So you're condemning me for being a fascist?

A fascist? When did I accuse you of being a fascist?

You are not giving support to your own people, but you are not a fascist.

 

[Spion]

If you don't like the way things are done in Britain, leave.

Haha, sit down and shut up you thick old fool.

 

[Sasaferrato]

So what was the alternative to talking to SF/IRA? Continue as usual: internment and arrests without trial? An extension of the H Blocks?

What of the terrorists on the Loyalist side? Heroes? The rightful rulers of the truncated province?

No. Absolutely not. A terrorist is just that, whichever faith they purport to be.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Haha, sit down and shut up you thick old fool.

When you indulge in personal insult, it betrays the paucity of your argument.

 

[Spion]

By the way, I'm quite curious as to what the left-wing supporters of Hamas think of this.

Jeez, you're a lot denser than I thought. I've already said I'd be with them when they are against racist aggression and against them when they attempt to impose their nationalist-driven agenda on democractic and w/c organisations.

Some anarchoids really do seem to have a problem working out an autonomous stance

 

[Sasaferrato]

Would it not be an interesting question to ask those who support israel what they would do if they were Palestinian.
I think it would.
So I ask it.

(Probably is too difficult a question... but one can always try.)

salaam.

I would be trying to accelerate the peace process. I would not vote for a party which will deliberately provoke Israel into retaliatory action.

 

[ViolentPanda]

A terrorist in government is still a terrorist.

Who decides who gets the label and who doesn't?

It saddens me beyond belief when people do not support their own. Israel's response may be regarded as disproportional by some, but they are not subject to rocket fire landing absolutely randomly in their communities. Israel must do what it needs to do.

So you say.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Jeez, you're a lot denser than I thought. I've already said I'd be with them when they are against racist aggression and against them when they attempt to impose their nationalist-driven agenda on democractic and w/c organisations.

Some anarchoids really do seem to have a problem working out an autonomous stance

You spout this shite, yet have the brass neck to accuse others of being thick. Priceless.

 

[belboid]

What I think is completely irrelevant.

quite

 

[belboid]

Who decides who gets the label and who doesn't?

Sas does, clearly.

 

[Aldebaran]

I would be trying to accelerate the peace process. I would not vote for a party which will deliberately provoke Israel into retaliatory action.

Leaving the political comment about elections and "deliberate provocation" aside for a moment, I'm a bit puzzled as to how you would do that acceleration of the peace process. Can you elaborate?

salaam.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Who decides who gets the label and who doesn't?


So you say.

People who fire rockets into civilian communities are terrorists in my book. You, of course, are perfectly free to hold your own view. I would suggest though, that Hamas would be regarded as terrorists by a large majority of the population.

 

[Sasaferrato]

I'm a bit puzzled as to how you would do that acceleration of the peace process. Can you elaborate?

salaam.

You can start by stopping firing rockets.

 

[In Bloom]

Jeez, you're a lot denser than I thought. I've already said I'd be with them when they are against racist aggression and against them when they attempt to impose their nationalist-driven agenda on democractic and w/c organisations.

So while supporting them in some respects, you don't agree with everything they do? Arrogant wanker

 

[Spion]

The Palestinians' response may be regarded as disproportional by some, but they are not subject to economic siege, Israeli air power, artillery and targetted assassinations in their communities. Palestinians must do what they need to do.

Corrected for you