Probably zero. Accidentally killed....too many.
Wonder how many more Hamas the IDF has killed......not enough probably.
Wonder how many more Israeli Jews Hamas would kill if they got the chance......approx 5 million I imagine.
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Wonder how many more Hamas the IDF has killed......not enough probably.
Wonder how many more Israeli Jews Hamas would kill if they got the chance......approx 5 million I imagine.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
"Probably zero"? You don't pay attention to the news, do you? Are you only concerned about "Israeli Jews"? What about the other Israelis? Not deserving of life, are they?
This is all about "killing Hamas" for you and others who style themselves as "liberals" in the US. The word "liberal" seems so meaningless when it's used by you.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
500 Gazans dead, according to The Morning Star (now online 
)
)I think Hamas would spare Israeli Arabs. It's the Jews they're after.
hipipol
Peckham Wry
hipipol
Peckham Wry
White Phosphorous
Seems that the Israelis are using the vile white Phosphorous again
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14830411
Only for smokecreen purposes, should any fall on a person, well thats an accident
Surgical, very precise
Seems that the Israelis are using the vile white Phosphorous again
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14830411
Only for smokecreen purposes, should any fall on a person, well thats an accident
Surgical, very precise
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
You're a fucking idiot. Do you think Hamas has DNA-guided rockets that specifically take out Jews? You also forget the indigenous Jews of Palestine who lived there long before the arrival of Euro settlers, who were regarded as "backward"by the sophisticated Europeans.
Btw, the so-called "Israeli-Arabs" are Palestinian; they consider themselves to be Palestinian.
News of war crimes from Hamas.
http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3648020,00.html
Cowardly Hamas fascists cannot face the Israeli military face to face but hide in hospitals posing as doctors in order to save their own sorry arses thereby endangering genuine civilian patients.
Hamas are scum. If it acts like a fascist, walks like a fascist, smells like a fascist then it is a fucking fascist. Its a fucking shame that the liberal left especially in the UK cannot recognise that Hamas is a fascist organisation and its disgusting to see UK Lefts marching alongside Hamas supporters.
http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3648020,00.html
Cowardly Hamas fascists cannot face the Israeli military face to face but hide in hospitals posing as doctors in order to save their own sorry arses thereby endangering genuine civilian patients.
Hamas are scum. If it acts like a fascist, walks like a fascist, smells like a fascist then it is a fucking fascist. Its a fucking shame that the liberal left especially in the UK cannot recognise that Hamas is a fascist organisation and its disgusting to see UK Lefts marching alongside Hamas supporters.
hipipol
Peckham Wry
I think your beating your head against a brick wall there mate
Israel has cleverly subverted the language by its NewSpeak so its hard to get even a common tongue
Terrorist - Those who oppose us
Iranian front - Those who oppose us
etc
Spion
I hear ya
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The nearest thing to a fascist I get wind of a on a daily basis is you with your cheerleading for the murder of hundreds of people simply because they're the wrong ethnic group
The Palestinian Jews refused to join the "Jewish Agency" when it was the organisation set up by the British to represent the Zionists.
In 1945/6/7 the Palestinian Jews on Jerusalem City Council sat with the Christians and Moslems, in opposition to the Zionists.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
One of the 500 dead turns out to be the father of the Independent's Gaza correspondent. Words fail me on reading that.
Spion
I hear ya
"The house was reduced to little more than powder, and of Dad there was nothing much left either. "Just a pile of flesh," my uncle, who found him in the rubble, said later with brutal honesty."
Good work, Zachor!
No I'm cheering on the army of a democratic country who is doing its best to rid the enclave of Gaza of the cancer of the Hamas fascists. Its a fucking shame that Hamas have by their own actions put the ordinary people of Gaza in harms way deliberately by actions such as hiding in hospitals and putting groups of children onto the rooves of buildings where there are rocket launchers. I'm sorry but I cannot support fascists who do that. If I was there I'd be fighting against Hamas not because I want to but because I know that you can't negotiate with fash you can only contain them and occasionally you have to kill them.
Sadly in any conflict there will be civilian casualties. At least the Israelis are not deliberately targetting civilians unlike the policy of hamas.
Spion
I hear ya
You're 180 degrees dead wrong. Hamas are the elected representatives of a people composed largely of refugees that fled from Israeli ethnic cleansing. But you know all this. You've been presented with the evidence dozens of times.
A scab at home, an ethnic cleanser abroad
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Did you read that article?
Spion
I hear ya
'In any conflict', like it's a natural fucking process. It's happening becuase not enough people have stood up against the Israeli occupation. You say you're for two states. It's all bollocks. You do nothing but cheerlead death and destruction.
Spion
I hear ya
What civilians? All Israelis serve in the IDF. It's a militarised society.
You agree with Palestinian terrorists blowing up busloads of school children or terrorists attacking a Yeshiva. Well done you've shown your true colours at last. Do you want a bag for your swastika flag or will you fly it now?
Spion
I hear ya
I've never said I'm in favour of ethnic cleansing. The actions taken at the time of the recreation of the state were as a result of attacks on Jews by Arabs. I'm not saying that they were right or the actions were right but that was the situation on the ground at the time.
Israel has a legal right to exist and therefore a legal right to defend themselves.
Spion
I hear ya
You've got a nerve, in a week that 500 Palestinians have been killed by your heroes.You agree with Palestinian terrorists blowing up busloads of school children or terrorists attacking a Yeshiva. Well done you've shown your true colours at last. Do you want a bag for your swastika flag or will you fly it now?
You just implied that because Israel has conscription and as a result of a multitude of attacks is a society where the military are a visible part of society then attacks against Israeli civilians are justified. If I've read this comment wrong then I will accept correction on it.
Spion
I hear ya
Utter utter bullshit
You believe this despite being repeatedly shown the written evidence of Zionist plans at the highest level to expel Arabs from Palestin.
I'd hate to be the empty moral shell you are.
The seeds of the idea of 'transfer of the Arabs' - Theodor Herzl, 19th century
“We must expropriate gently . . . We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our country . . . Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly.” (p41, The complete diaries of Theodor Herzl, I, 88)
The idea takes shape - Ben Gurion in 1937
“If we do not succeed in removing the Arabs from our midst. . . and transferring them to the Arab area – it will not be achievable easily (and perhaps at all) after the [Jewish] state is established . . . This thing must be done now – and the first step – perhaps the crucial [step] – is conditioning ourselves for its implementation.’ (Ben Gurion – Diary 12 July 1937)
The head of the Jewish Agency - 1940
“If the Arabs leave it, the country will become wide and spacious for us . . . The only solution is a land of Israel, at least a western land of Israel, without Arabs. There is no room here for compromises . . . There is no way but to transfer all the Arabs from here to the neighbouring countries, to transfer them all, save perhaps for Bethlehem, Nazareth and old Jerusalem. Not one village must be left, not one tribe.” 20 Dec 1940. Weitz (leading member of the JA’s Transfer Committee 1937-38), My diary, II, 181
The long-held idea of expelling the Arabs is put into operation with the Zionist' militias' 'Plan Dalet' in March 1948
“You will move to State Dalet, for an operative implementation of Plan Dalet . . . the villages which you will capture, cleanse or destroy will be decided according to consultation with your advisors on Arab affairs and the intelligence officers.” Orders to Carmeli Brigade in Zvi Sinai (ed), The Carmeli Brigade in the War of Independence, p29
Spion
I hear ya
I am on record all over these boards as not advocating rocket attacks. I understand them as a response to ethnic cleansing and oppression but do not advocate them and certainly do not advocate suicide bombings.
Now take it back
Quite a few rotten governments & gov officials gained power through elections.....Bush, Blair, Akmadinajad,.......and good ole' Adolph of course (not that I'm saying they're all the same).
Spion you said: "What civilians? All Israelis serve in the IDF. It's a militarised society. "
You can surely see why this comment looked to me like a pro terrorist comment which implied that all Israelis are legitimate targets. If I have misread this comment then I appologise and take back the comment I made.
Yes I agree with you morally these were probably not the best courses of action to have taken in hindsight. However they were made in the context of attacks from Arabs and threats to destroy the fledgeling state of Israel.
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