*IRAQ: latest news and developments

[Loki]

Truly was history in the making seeing that statue topple.

But this business about putting American flag on his head and then taking that off and putting up an Iraqi flag round his neck - then taking that away - as crass as it's bizarre. The arab world will be pissed off with those images for sure

 

[pbman]

Originally posted by john x
The US marines..........

could have had the good grace to let the Iraqi people destroy Saddam's statue but instead they put a US flag on the statue!

Says it all doesn't it.

They had better pray that there aren't any snipers left in the square!

john x

They tried to knock it down with hammers.

so we helped them.

And i see a lot of iraqi/american people flying us flags in deerborn michigan.

And in iraq.

 

[Roadkill]

They think it's all over...

...it is now!

 

[the scouser]

There thousands greiving still and medical and social provision over the next few days and weeks means that there is very much a battle on now to prevent the deaths of ordinary Iraqis.

Yes i smile at the statue, but its not over, not by a long shot, in fact the trouble may just be starting........Red Cross Suspends Baghdad Work; Canadian Killed
Wed April 9, 2003 02:06 PM ET


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said on Wednesday it had temporarily suspended humanitarian operations in Baghdad because the situation in the city was "chaotic and unpredictable."

"Given the chaotic and totally unpredictable situation in the city, getting from one place to another involves incalculable risks," the ICRC said in a statement.

And...........

In a separate incident, two Belgian doctors working in a Baghdad hospital told Reuters correspondent Khaled Yacoub Oweis that two Iraqi brothers in urgent need of medical treatment had died when the ambulance they were traveling in came under fire on Wednesday afternoon from what they said were U.S. forces.

One doctor, Geert van Moorter, said he confronted a U.S. tank commander nearby over the incident. "His reply was that it (the ambulance) could have been full of explosives," he said.

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[pbman]

the war is over.

According to the iraqi ambasador to the un.

 

[john x]

Originally posted by pbman
the war is over.

According to the iraqi ambasador to the un.

I'll remind you of that when the next US soldier is killed!

john x

 

[pbman]

Originally posted by john x
I'll remind you of that when the next US soldier is killed!

john x

NO need.

And their were fights after the civil war ended as well.

But the ambassadar is probably the one in charge, if saddam is dead.

 

[Bajie]

From BBC latest :

Wednesday, 9 April

1915: US Vice President Dick Cheney says talks will soon be held with exiled Iraqis and local leaders near the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriya to begin planning for an interim Iraqi government.

By exiled Iraqis, I take this to mean not exiled Iraq's in particular but the Dr Ahmed Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress.

 

[bigfish]

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[whiterose]

"Where is General Garner now?" Chalabi said. "The US troops have defeated Saddam militarily. That was never a problem.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_769108.html?menu=news.wariniraq

Surely he's not saying the guys a day late and a dollar short already?

 

[whiterose]

Journalists snub Straw and Spanish premier

One Spanish journalist had asked Mr Straw's counterpart Ana Palacio about reports US forces had declared the Palestine Hotel - where most foreign reporters were staying - a military target 48 hours prior to the blast that killed Jose Couso and Reuters cameraman Taras Protsyuk.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_769048.html?menu=news.wariniraq

 

[bigfish]

whiterose - You are completely right to pursue this line. Despite their denials, its obvious that the Americans are trying to cower all of those jounalists who refuse to fall in line like the 'in bed with' mob. AJ has been uncle sams most vociferous critic. It cannot be accidental that they were attacked both in Iraq and in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan they were fortunate enough to be tipped off about the US attack that reduced their production facility in Kabul to rubble and nobody was killed. In Iraq they were not so lucky.

The military activity of the US in this respect and also in other respects, is deeply fascistic. The US leadership are political gangsters plain and simple.

 

[pbman]

Its a blood night in baghdad, people are getting payback and hanging saddams mionions on the lamposts.

As reported by ollie north.

 

[john x]

Originally posted by pbman


As reported by ollie north.

Not the Oliver North of Contra fame?

john x

 

[Lock&Light]

Kirkuk appears to have fallen to the Kurds and Special Forces. The Turks will not be pleased.

 

[pk]

Its a blood night in baghdad, people are getting payback and hanging saddams mionions on the lamposts.

As reported by ollie north.

Hanging your onions, pbman?

Looks as though the French have more influence than you care to admit...

 

[J77]

Originally posted by DarthSydodyas
They replaced the Stars 'n Stripes with the Iraqi flag, but it fell off before the statue was pulled off.

They briefly draped the 'Stars-and-Stripes' flag over the face of Saddam...

...but the gesture stirred anger, and instead the troops worked to topple the statue

bbc

good shots of the toppling, see above post and link.

still a big at the us flag business.

same topic from the guardian

They [the Iraqis] were making reasonable progress, and might well have toppled it after a few hours, but that would have been too late for primetime TV. The Americans were getting impatient, and their armoured vehicle lumbered up the podium steps with the elegance of a sexually aroused hippopotamus.

 

[Loki]

Originally posted by J77

still a big at the us flag business.

Yep. I already mentioned above I found it as crass as it was bizzare - obviously intended for the home audience back in the You-Us of A, but incredibly ill-judged, which a glance at the arab press this morning seems to confirm - it went down like a lead balloon.

 

[whiterose]

from article in previous post but one.

[The sheikh had been given the job after a two-hour interview with a divisional commander, and was "very pleased" with the arrangements proposed by the British. An Arab journalist then suggested that the sheikh, as a tribal leader, was likely to promote members of his own tribe to key posts.

Colonel Vernon seemed surprised by this, and agreed that Britain would have to keep an eye on the situation.]

2 hours is less time than it takes to interview someone for a line managers job in a call center in the UK. Nice to see they are not making hasty decisions

 

[whiterose]

Wasn't it said that the flag was flying on the pentagon 911 - lucky that particular vehicle carrying that particular flag happened to roll by - or do all vehicles carry one just in case??

 

[whiterose]

Blair and Bush send TV message to Iraqis
Tony Blair and George Bush will broadcast direct to the Iraqi people on a TV station set up by coalition forces.
The station, called Towards Freedom TV, will be broadcast from America's specially-equipped Commando Solo C-130 Hercules aircraft circling over Iraq.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_769251.html?menu=news.wariniraq

 

[whiterose]

Kurdish fighters enter Kirkuk
Kurdish guerrilla fighters have entered the city of Kirkuk in northern Iraq.
A US military official says American special forces are attempting to get a presence into Kirkuk "in the interest of regional stability" - an apparent reference to Turkey's concerns about Kurds taking over the oil city.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_769271.html?menu=news.wariniraq

 

[Lock&Light]

AP is reporting the sacking of the offices of the French and Germans in Baghdad. Now they know what the Iraqis think of their betrayal.

 

[sub]

mob mentality!!!

Baghdad is rapidly falling into anarchy.

The American troups must regain order and start policing these mobs.

According to the telly, most of the officiers have peace keeping training...the troups :shrug:

 

[extra dry]

From www.bbc.com

UK firms seek Iraq contracts


Iraq needs massive rebuilding work
Top British companies are pressing the government to help them win a slice of the key contracts for rebuilding war-torn Iraq.
Following the collapse of the Iraqi regime in central Baghdad, the British Consultants and Construction Bureau (BCCB), representing more than 300 top firms, are meeting Whitehall officials about their concerns.

Tony Blair has already denied suggestions that American companies will profit out of the war by winning the valuable reconstruction work.

Officials from the Department of Trade and Industry and the Department for International Development will now try to offer further reassurance.

'Short-sighted?'

The contracts to rebuild Iraq's shattered infrastructure are expected to total more than £600m.

Some UK businesses feel they lost out in the first Gulf War, despite British forces playing a lead role in liberating Kuwait after the Iraqi invasion.

BCCB chief executive Colin Adams has said: "Many UK firms have a great deal of experience in Iraq, know relevant Iraqi professionals and thus have a great deal to offer.

"Ignoring this experience, especially if the idea is to rebuild the country quickly, would be not a little short-sighted."

American government agency US Aid is planning to fund moves to build five airports and set up a health service.

BCCB says it is natural for US Aid to give the lead contracts to American companies.

But it says there is a strong case for the US Government to allow British firms to bid for sub-contracts.

They are also pushing for the Ministry of Defence to look out for opportunities for British firms to help.

'No commercial interest'

Government officials are expected to tell BCCB on Thursday that up to half of the work will be sub-contracted out, with UK companies set to get a fair share.

Reports that American companies have been lined up for key contracts have fuelled suspicion among anti-war campaigners especially.

In a BBC interview last week, Tony Blair said: "All this stuff in the media about the Americans giving out the contracts - all that has happened is that American aid, legally under American law, is tied to American trade and commerce...

"There is not question of us trying to tie up British or American commercial interest with this."

No wonder they want a swift neat endding.

 

[extra dry]

Just soom of the 300 compainies looking for contracts in Iraq. And BALFOUR BEATTY GROUP LIMITED is amoung them.
Sorry for the cut a paste but I am short of time at the moment.

ADAMS INTEGRA LIMITED

SOCIAL HOUSING CONSULTANTS
ADAS CONSULTANTS TO AGRICULTURE, HORTICULTURE, FOOD & DRINK , LAND-BASED AND LEISURE INDUSTRIES

ADVANTICA TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED RESEARCH, TECHNOLOGY, CONSULTANCY & OPERATIONAL SERVICES TO THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRIES AND UTILITIES

AETHERIC ENGINEERING LTD CONSULTANCY IN SATELLITE COMMUNICATIONS

AFFICO FINANCE, BANKING AND TRADE CONSULTANTS
AGENDA CONSULTING LTD MANAGEMENT CONSULTING FOR NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANISATIONS INCLUDING ASSOCIATIONS, VOLUNTARY, AND PUBLIC SECTOR ORGANISATIONS (ENTRY UNDER PREPARATION)

AGRISYSTEMS LTD INTERNATIONAL MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS IN RURAL DEVELOPMENT

AGROS ASSOCIATES SPECIALISTS IN THE USE OF MATERIAL OF PLANT ORIGIN FOR THE FOOD, PHARMACEUTICAL COSMETIC AND CHEMICAL INDUSTRIES

ALVIS VEHICLES LTD DESIGN, MANUFACTURE, SUPPORT OF MILITARY AND SPECIALIST VEHICLES
AMEC MAJOR INTERNATIONAL DESIGN AND ENGINEERING COMPANY

ANGLIAN WATER INTERNATIONAL LTD RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR WATER AND NETWORK INFRASTRUCTURE

ANGLO-AZERI SOCIETY A SOCIETY PROMOTING CULTURAL AND TRADE LINKS BETWEEN THE UK AND AZERBAIJAN
ANTHONY PRINCE COMPLEX IT AND ORGANISATIONAL CHANGE (Entry under construction)

ARUP INTERNATIONAL CONSULTING ENGINEERS, PLANNERS AND DESIGNERS

ARUP ECONOMICS & PLANNING ECONOMICS, STATUTORY AND BUSINESS PLANNING CONSULTANTS

ATKINS MULTI DISCIPLINARY TECHNICAL CONSULTANCY AND PROVIDER OF SUPPORT SERVICES

ATOS KPMG CONSULTING LTD MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS
BABTIE GROUP LTD TECHNICAL AND MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS

BACTEC INTERNATIONAL LIMITED ORDNANCE AND MINE CLEARANCE CONSULTANTS

BAE SYSTEMS PLC DEFENCE AND AEROSPACE

*BALFOUR BEATTY GROUP LIMITED WORLDWIDE CIVIL, RAIL & POWER ENGINEERING, BUILDING AND BUILDING SERVICES & MAINTENANCE AND ASSET MANAGEMENT

BALLAST PLC GENERAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDING CONTRACTOR
BATHGATE MANAGEMENT LIMITED INTERNATIONAL PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AND RESOURCE PROCUREMENT

BAXTER EADIE LIMITED CONSULTANTS IN MARITIME AND LAND TRANSPORT, MARINE INSURANCE SERVICES, ECONOMIC EVALUATION, AND STATISTICAL STUDIES

BECKETT RANKINE PARTNERSHIP MARINE CONSULTING ENGINEERS

BEHRE DOLBEAR INTERNATIONAL LIMITED MINERALS INDUSTRY CONSULTANTS

BELMONT MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED BUSINESS PLANNING, TRADE DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT PROMOTION
BENCHMARK SEARCH GROUP EXECUTIVE SEARCH AND SELECTION

BERRY PALMER & LYLE LTD TRADE CREDIT AND POLITICAL RISK INSURANCE

BERRYMANS LACE MAWER SOLICITORS

BERWIN LEIGHTON PAISNER LAW FIRM

BICKERDIKE ALLEN PARTNERS ARCHITECTS, PLANNERS, ACOUSTICAL AND CONSTRUCTION CONSULTANTS
BIRKS SINCLAIR & ASSOCIATES LTD ECONOMIC AND

SOCIAL POLICY ADVISERS IN TRANSITION ECONOMIES
BIWATER INTERNATIONAL LTD WATER & ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING CONTRACTOR

BLACK & VEATCH CONSULTING MULTI-DISCIPLINARY CONSULTING ENGINEERS

BLACKALL CONSULTANTS INDUSTRIAL MINERALS, QUARRYING CONSULTANT

BLC LEATHER TECHNOLOGY CENTRE LTD LEATHER AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS

BLUE LONDON LTD HOSPITALITY AND TOURISM CONSULTANTS (Entry under construction)

BOOKER TATE LIMITED SUGAR CANE AND SUGAR BEET

AGRICULTURAL AND AGRO-INDUSTRIAL CONSULTANTS AND MANAGERS

BOOTH SMITH FOOD TECHNOLOGY FOOD INDUSTRY CONSULTANCY FOR DESIGN, TECHNOLOGY, MANAGEMENT AND STRATEGY

BOVIS LEND LEASE LTD (EUROPE) CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND CONSULTANCY THROUGHOUT EUROPE, THE MIDDLE EAST AND AFRICA

BPA TECHNICAL CONSULTANTS TO THE OIL & GAS PIPELINE INDUSTRY

BRISTOL WATER SERVICES LIMITED WATER MANAGEMENT CONSULTANCY AND SERVICES

BRITISH AIRPORTS GROUP TRADE ASSOCIATION

BRITISH COUNCIL BRITAIN'S INTERNATIONAL NETWORK FOR EDUCATION, CULTURE AND DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE


BRITISH OFFSET OFFICE PROMOTION OFJOINT VENTURES IN SAUDI ARABIA

C.S. TODD & ASSOCIATES LTD FIRE PROTECTION CONSULTANTS
C.T.S. MARINE CONSULTANTS LTD MARINE AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS, OCEANOGRAPHERS & OCEAN ENGINEERS
C2 LOGISTICS TRANSPORT AND LOGISTICS, INTERNATIONAL TRADE (ENTRY UNDER PREPARATION)

CALLUND CONSULTING LIMITED INTERNATIONAL PENSIONS, HEALTH AND SOCIAL SECURITY CONSULTANTS


CORROCONSULT LTD CATHODIC PROTECTION. CORROSION CONTROL. STRAY CURRENT CORROSION CONTROL. PIPELINE REHABILITATION. SUPERVISION, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF BURIED PIPELINES. PIPE SAMPLE ANALYSIS.

CORUS CONSTRUCTION CENTRE SPECIALIST RAILWAY CONSULTANTS


DEIGHTON INTERNATIONAL LEISURE & TOURISM DEVELOPMENT & MANAGEMENT SPECIALISTS

GEORGE LABOR TO SUPPORT PEACE AND RECONCILATION IN WAR TORN SOCIETIES AND PROMOTE GOOD GOVERNANCE AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT (ENTRY UNDER PREPARATION)

GFA-RACE PARTNERS LTD MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS TO FOOD, AGRICULTURE AND THE RURAL INDUSTRIES

RIDS LIMITED TECHNICAL AND PHYSICAL SECURITY CONSULTANTS AND INSTALLERS. TECHNICAL SECURITY COUNTERMEASURES (SWEEPING FOR ELECTRONIC EAVESDROPPING DEVICES)

ROYAL INSTITUTE OF BRITISH ARCHITECTS (R.I.B.A.)

ROYAL INSTITUTION OF CHARTERED SURVEYORS (RICS) THE MARK OF PROPERTY PROFESSIONALISM WORLDWIDE

ROYAL TOWN PLANNING INSTITUTE PROFESSIONAL INSTITUTE FOR TOWN PLANNERS

RUSSO-BRITISH CHAMBER OF COMMERCE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PROMOTING TRADE AND INVESTMENT BETWEEN THE UK AND RUSSIA

MARKETING AND PLANNING CONSULTANTS
SWANKE HAYDEN CONNELL INTERNATIONAL LTD ARCHITECTS, INTERIOR DESIGNERS





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[Roadkill]

Originally posted by extra dry
Tony Blair has already denied suggestions that American companies will profit out of the war by winning the valuable reconstruction work.

I honestly don't know how that man keep a straight face when he says these things.

 

[sub]

and the lesson to be learned is....

if there are not enough jobs inside your own country, go destroy another one then you will have jobs for your citizens.

Job creation at it's finest!!!!

 

[Stobart Stopper]

Sky News says Iraq Shi'ite leader assassinated in Najaf.

 

[Catpain Choas]

extra dry,

What about the British companies already with contracts?