Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Maybe they can ask Alistair Campbell's guy to write them up a dossier.
Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion
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spring-peeper
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I sorta remember they were warned about the attack two weeks prior, but dismissed it as "fake news".
I'm sick and can't be bothered to verify this.
Apparently Israel have better intelligence forces than the US and the UK so I find it strange as well that they didn't do any due diligence on the intel. With their intel, that would have been the better way to go after Hamas rather than bomb and kill innocent people in Gaza.
JJ
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Israel would have everyone believe that their intelligence forces are super-dooper. Any intelligence force would seek to have everyone believe that, though. I'd suggest that they have a proven record as one of the most ruthless intelligence forces in the world. Not the same as being shit hot at the intel, though. They've been known to murder the wrong people in the past by mistake.
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WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
He’s a piece of shit but this is quite a slap to Scholz
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
That's Ros Atkins, one of the better ones at the Beeb. He used to have his own programme in the evening but he seems to have been sidelined recently.
WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
Is Fatah, Hamas now?
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RhymnRzn
anti-doter
One state. No one gets to overrun or conquer the other. No need for a bunch of rules of law, with a thourough disarmament and immediate sharing and caring for the least and poorest, where no man has ought for his own possessions or private property, with respect to reforms and preservations - every man has a right of passage without taking one thing too much.
Now it looks like these guys think they are galloping upon a white horse with their sword, and are conquering by force. I for one would put the military might in the hands of the palestinians just to see what they would do to these brutes, who have taken the good names of zion, jews, and israel in vain.
ska invita
back on the other side
interesting perspective from martin wright floating the possible further mobilisation by the english far right feeding off wider islamophobia
not impossible i guess
not impossible i guess
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ska invita
back on the other side
come in david mitchell
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Is a violent Marvel comics hero with Nazi symbolism inspiring Israeli soldiers?
Most commonly associated with 'The Punisher and Nazi S.S. officers, the skull insignia is showing up on the uniforms of Israeli soldiers.
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WhyLikeThis
Something, something, something
come in david mitchell
Is a violent Marvel comics hero with Nazi symbolism inspiring Israeli soldiers?
Most commonly associated with 'The Punisher and Nazi S.S. officers, the skull insignia is showing up on the uniforms of Israeli soldiers.
Here’s that patch again:
spring-peeper
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mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
If I was gonna stash a load of METAL guns somewhere I would not choose the MRI room.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
They need to dig a lot of tunnels, and quickly. Then fill them up with English language PDF printouts titled 'how to do a the holocaust'
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
They've found precisely fuck all. What they've displayed is obvious, clumsy plants.
The doctors and nurses and aid workers and journalists weren't lying when they said Hamas weren't there. Funny that.
Not that killing people was justified even if they had been there.
Murderers.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
I often listen to old world service cultural and arts programmes on bbc sounds. Anyway in an episode from 1991 I was playing earlier on some form of traditional Yiddish music (fiddler on the roof style, I forget the name), there was someone who had a Zionist upbringing saying the bit in bold that traditional Yiddish culture had been supplanted by Zionist culture and that they had enjoyed the revival of this part of Yiddish / Jewish culture.I've read about hundred pages of history of IDF by an Israeli.
An Army Like No Other
The Israeli army, officially named the Israel Defence Forces (IDF), was established in 1948 by David Ben-Gurion, Israel’s first prime minister, who believed that ‘the whole nation is the army’. In his mind, the IDF was to be an army like no other. It was the instrument that might transform a...www.versobooks.com
Given the bombing of Gaza was curious.
So far what comes across is that Ben Gurion saw IDF has way to build a nation.
He said something like Israel is a state the thing is to build a nation.
Israel was built by armed struggle.
Building Israel , if I read this right, was also building a new kind of how to be a Jew
For example making Hebrew the language of the new state. Yiddish and various European languages were the common language of early immigrants.
Hebrew unlike Yiddish was a dead language.
Making it the language of the new state was drawing a difference between European Jewish culture and the new Jewish citizen of the new state
I remember Ilan Pappe saying. ( And he's hardly a fan of his country) that you've got to give it to the Zionists they created and built a whole new state and society.
It might be worth considering that Israel is not a continuation of European Jewish culture ( Yiddish in Eastern Europe destroyed by Nazis) but a new cultural formation.
I'm not saying this as a criticism. Pappe for example says this was an achievement. Even though he became , as an Israeli Jew , disillusioned with it
The IDF play a major role in every Israel life. Starts early at school . IDF ex senior officers go on to politics / business etc.
In fact some of the more recent issues about corruption is ex army officers setting up business and regarding themselves as above the law
As IDF has such high status. Any political party wants to have quota of ex senior IDF people in it.
IDF even had role in cultural production. Still runs popular radio station.
Bit of a digression, sorry
andysays
Love and solidarity
I'm deeply suspicious of anyone who uses the term "welfare handouts" in any context, but for Mason to use it about the situation in Gaza is almost beyond belief.
Is he still seeking to become a Labour MP? Using that sort of language should endear him to the leadership, if nothing else.
Next up: loading residents onto trains bound for special camps.
andysays
Love and solidarity
come in david mitchell
Is a violent Marvel comics hero with Nazi symbolism inspiring Israeli soldiers?
Most commonly associated with 'The Punisher and Nazi S.S. officers, the skull insignia is showing up on the uniforms of Israeli soldiers.
For anyone who didn't get the David Mitchell reference
Or should that be bound for a different special camp
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Emptying the ghetto.
And police wanted to arrest a protester last week for comparing Israel to the Nazis.
And police wanted to arrest a protester last week for comparing Israel to the Nazis.
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