Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[Kaka Tim]

is facebook repressing posts about the confilict? suspicious absence of palastinian related content on my feed - depsite huge proportion of LOC facebook freinds. i.e. not seen one post promoting the demo, or highlighting the carnage. is this also happening on other platforms?

 

[WhyLikeThis]

is facebook repressing posts about the confilict? suspicious absence of palastinian related content on my feed - depsite huge proportion of LOC facebook freinds. i.e. not seen one post promoting the demo, or highlighting the carnage. is this also happening on other platforms?

I suspected the same on Twitter the few days.

 

[Elpenor]

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What a lot of twaddle, the Met are just wet snowflake members of the wokerati.

Not the reason you posted the front page but below the fold it seems the 10 billion tax cut for business that Hunt is keen to fund on the right hand of the page would more than cover the cost for the cystic fibrosis drugs on the left hand side

 

[Dogsauce]

Left of labour covers a multitude of sins

Probably includes the fucking Liberal Democrats these days…

 

[Bingoman]

No need for self-censorship, you can post 'fucking' on here, you daft cunt.

Well I trying not offend people who are sensitive

 

[Pickman's model]

Well I trying not offend people who are sensitive

But you do offend people who'd like to see you offer an opinion on tweets etc you post

 

[The39thStep]

Bring back the GDR

 

[ska invita]

I suspected the same on Twitter the few days.

I literally only have Palestine related posts in my Twitter right now.

There's some very busy WhatsApp groups as well

UK military involved?

RAF admits to making 17 military flights to Israel since Gaza bombing began

But Declassified discovers 33 UK military transport flights to Tel Aviv in the last month, including every day for two weeks after the Gaza bombing began.

www.declassifieduk.org

 

[WhyLikeThis]

I literally only have Palestine related posts in my Twitter right now.

There's some very busy WhatsApp groups as well

UK military involved?

RAF admits to making 17 military flights to Israel since Gaza bombing began

But Declassified discovers 33 UK military transport flights to Tel Aviv in the last month, including every day for two weeks after the Gaza bombing began.

www.declassifieduk.org

There was this posted a while back

UK issues D-Notices to suppress reports of SAS special forces operations in Gaza

D Notices are used by the British state to veto the publication of news damaging to its interests. The slavish collusion of the mainstream media ensures that such notices function as gag orders.

www.wsws.org

 

[Bingoman]

But you do offend people who'd like to see you offer an opinion on tweets etc you post

Cant argue with that lol

 

[Aladdin]

Any truth in this? Seen it on numbers of websites.

Wiped off the map: Chinese tech giants erase Israel | CTech

In a move that reflects the lining up of the tech world behind nationalist lines drawn by the leading powers, Israel no longer appears on the online maps of the Chinese giants Baidu and Alibaba. The technology cannot profit from this

www.calcalistech.com

 

[tommers]

Pricks.

 

[tommers]

So, that's what? Civilians, hospitals, ambulances, schools, white flags and the UN.

 

[Raheem]

Any truth in this? Seen it on numbers of websites.

Wiped off the map: Chinese tech giants erase Israel | CTech

In a move that reflects the lining up of the tech world behind nationalist lines drawn by the leading powers, Israel no longer appears on the online maps of the Chinese giants Baidu and Alibaba. The technology cannot profit from this

www.calcalistech.com

Looks far-fetched. Is Xi is supposed to have gone "I know what will show 'em..."?

 

[RedRedRose]

Any truth in this? Seen it on numbers of websites.

Wiped off the map: Chinese tech giants erase Israel | CTech

In a move that reflects the lining up of the tech world behind nationalist lines drawn by the leading powers, Israel no longer appears on the online maps of the Chinese giants Baidu and Alibaba. The technology cannot profit from this

www.calcalistech.com

Yes. They removed Israel from two map platforms last week. Baidu map (Chinese equivalent of google map) doesn't show the country outline or flag, but a search does geo-locate its position.

A lot of pro-Palestinian content is being heavily circulated (seen Novara Media and Norman Finkelstein clips do the rounds!), although occasionally I see pro-Israel content. The popular video platforms on geo-politics can sometimes resemble the Daily Mail in tone, albeit with lots of affirmations of who should win. Alarmingly, quite a few anti-semitic comments can be found.

This article seemed to have a few things to say on the latter

Israel-Gaza war fuels online anti-Semitism, Islamophobia in China

Hate speech has proliferated but usually vigilant Chinese censors seem unwilling to remove it.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Pricks.

Maybe: but war criminals too

 

[spring-peeper]

Maybe: but war criminals too

like they care about that

 

[Aladdin]

Maybe: but war criminals toto

He actually read the World Health Organisation into his speech because the word "Who" is part of his speech. Then he corrects himself. Obviously just reading propoganda

 

[Larry O'Hara]

like they care about that

They don’t but I am not alone in so doing

 

[Serge Forward]

Within Zionism there are left and right versions.

Labour Zionism is "left" in a Zionist way.

David Ben Gurion for example was a Labour Zionist.

And was one of the main leaders involved in the expulsion of Palestinians -The Nakba.

Which if one reads Ilan Pappe book the Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine makes him a war criminal.

In Israel left can mean different things to what one might think looking at it historically

Labour Zionism Ben Gurion version was one that was dominant for decades after Israel was founded. With Zionist Labour organisations - Histadrut being important part of this.

Both Labour Zionism ( I see the twitter used an old photo) and right Zionism were predicated on expulsion of Palestinians.

And yes there were big divisions in Zionist movement. But for Palestinians this was not the issue. As both wanted a Zionist state.

Yep. The current far right Likud etc types are basically the heirs of Revisionist Zionism, ie the fash.

 

[teqniq]

Long article in Haaretz focusing on the bereaved Israeli families, the contempt for Netenhahu is held by many:

'Netanyahu Must Go, Now': Israel's Newly Bereaved Families Are Holding One Man Responsible

 

[teqniq]

Major war crime ongoing:

‘We’re minutes away from death, whole world standing by’: Al-Shifa doctors

Head of Gaza’s main medical complex says compound ‘completely cut off, any moving person targeted’ by Israeli forces.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[kabbes]

Curious to know if anybody still feels they need more time before they can decide if Israel’s actions are all fully justified?

 

[johnwesley]

Fash including Yaxley-Lennon have arrived at the Cenotaph.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Curious to know if anybody still feels they need more time before they can decide if Israel’s actions are all fully justified?

Before long a lot of people are going to be telling a lot of lies about where they stood on this.

 

[tommers]

That's the horrific thing for me. I fully expected Israel to level the place, but that everybody who holds any kind of power seems to be perfectly OK with that, or actively supports it, is shocking to me. Just fucking heartbreaking.

And then they are slandering people who march to try to stop it, and shipping in their thugs and I dunno, it's really brought things into sharp relief for me.

 

[Aladdin]

Is anyone watching Shaun King's social media accounts?

 

[Knotted]

This makes for a depressing read.

The Israeli public has embraced the Smotrich doctrine

The internalization of the minister's 'Decisive Plan' is evident in the public support for a new ultimatum for Gaza: emigration or annihilation.

www.972mag.com

 

[Pickman's model]

This makes for a depressing read.

The Israeli public has embraced the Smotrich doctrine

The internalization of the minister's 'Decisive Plan' is evident in the public support for a new ultimatum for Gaza: emigration or annihilation.

www.972mag.com

Yeh maybe you could say a mite more about why you thought it worth sharing. You did think it worth sharing I suppose

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Fash including Yaxley-Lennon have arrived at the Cenotaph.

I did have aslightly open mind on Robinson being a shill, but his stirring himself from his Spanish poolside to discredit peace marchers ends the debate.