mysterygirl
Stealth visit from work
please would someone be kind enough to explain (hope Im not being dense....... )
Glastonbury 2008
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please would someone be kind enough to explain (hope Im not being dense....... )
please would someone be kind enough to explain (hope Im not being dense....... )
They are very popular camping fields. (And no, you aren't being dense. The fest is very big, and when the fest geeks start chatting, one might think there are a whole load of secrets everyone but you knows. In reality, when you are there, it's not really like that.
)William or Tort will explain more I'm sure - they know those fields much better than me.
please would someone be kind enough to explain (hope Im not being dense....... )
The smallish camping area in the south east (bottom right) corner. Home of Camp Urban for the last few years.
e2a as Paolo says they are very popular. Dragon was chocabloc by 11am on the Wednesday last year.
david dissadent
New Member
They are two smallish fields just of off the stone ciricle with alot of shade and not really too well known, unlike something like pennards.
please would someone be kind enough to explain (hope Im not being dense....... )
please would someone be kind enough to explain (hope Im not being dense....... )
Dragon and Williams ... two adjacent public camping fields ... <eta : as I see David D has already said
>They are very nice and suberbly located, but they fill up very quickly, so if you want to join Camp Urban (in that area), try and enter the site as soon as you can on the morning of Weds 25th June
Details of Camp Urban to follow early June ...
david dissadent
New Member
I honestly found this googling Glastonbury Map.....
Edit to add google link
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=glastonbury+map&ndsp=20&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&start=60&sa=N
Just to prove I did.
Edit to add google link
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=glastonbury+map&ndsp=20&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&start=60&sa=N
Just to prove I did.
mysterygirl
Stealth visit from work
I would like to definitely pleaseDragon and Williams ... two adjacent public camping fields, both to the right of Craft Fields on the map, and to the left of Shangri La on the map. They are very nice and suberbly located, but they fill up very quickly, so if you want to join Camp Urban (in that area), try and enter the site as soon as you can on the morning of Weds 25th June
Details of Camp Urban to follow early June ...
And thanks to all for the explanations, also the reassurance that Im not as dense as I was feeling
mysterygirl
Stealth visit from work
Dragon was chocabloc on Tuesday night last year before the gates opened...
newbie
undisambiguated
there's a main vehicle route up through the middle of what was family camping, which has caused some parents anxiety. That's not helped by the particularly narrow and winding track from acoustic and the kids area where vehicles and pedestrians are too close together, and kids need to be actively supervised. That's not at all ideal, and may be the reason?
I'll be sad, personally. I see much the same people camped in much the same places every year, it'll break that up.
e2a it's also closer to the west carparks. Some families take a lot of stuff and there's been grumbling about the trudge.
In the last hour I've been told a similar story - emergency vehicle best route (to Ivymead medical centre, I assume) is through Cockmill.
Not that I've seen that many (any?) have to rush through. I'd always assumed they'd go up muddy lane, which was vehicles only last year anyway.
I suspect there will be an outcry from some FC regulars. Big Ground with lots of Heras to secure it, won't be anything like the seclusion of Cockmill.
Hah well. Onwards and upwards. Or sideways, in some corners of the site.
newbie
undisambiguated
Assuming the traffic routing isn't changed, Muddy Lane is one way, going down, with the only other route up being the track which runs alongside the Pyramid arena and then up to the farm. The problem with that is that it's very steep, (not everything can get up there and some need pulling, especially when it's wet) and clogged with people. The rather gentler slope up though Cockmill is the only one that all vehicles can manage and is generally a lot less busy with pedestrians, it's just rather unfortunate that most of them have kids with them.
newbie
undisambiguated
Is it any wonder those two public fields are so popular- have a look at the map and notice with interest how much of that side of the site is either light green ('crew camping') or light purple ('no public access'). Especially around the greenfields, a place that wants the reputation of being like an old-time festival but in reality is just as fenced-off elitist as elsewhere on site.
ah ok... With muddy lane being one way downhill it makes more sense.
Harsh! And just a little unfair I feel ... for example, as you know, Green Crew -- Undles Ground -- isn't fenced off , you can't camp there, but you can wander through, so that's one area where the barriers are more down than up
I've never been crew before this year, but even now I'm most likely going to be, I'd rather continue to be in the public field than a crew one. But would you advocate the total abolition of divisions between crew camping and public? I suspect that'd be a bit of an unpopular position .... not sure what I think cos I've never been crew up til now.
Harsh! And just a little unfair I feel ... for example, as you know, Green Crew -- Undles Ground -- isn't fenced off , you can't camp there, but you can wander through, so that's one area where the barriers are more down than up
I've never been crew before this year, but even now I'm most likely going to be, I'd rather continue to be in the public field than a crew one. But would you advocate the total abolition of divisions between crew camping and public? I suspect that'd be a bit of an unpopular position .... not sure what I think cos I've never been crew up til now.
I think it all really depends on how mucky you're likely to get & how much manual effort you are likely to be putting into your allotted tasks and therefore whether you can reasonably expect to have showers provided. Also those that have meals included as part of their deal would presumably want to be camped in an area fairly close to their allotted canteens. For somebody such as yourself who is unlikely to do anything more strenuous than lugging a few newspapers & packs of loo roll around I think you can probably get away with slumming it with the plebs
jontz01
taking refuge in the loft
Personally, I'd do whatever is asked of me, I'd quite happily do manual work/hard graft - it makes time fly... Ideally, I want to camp with everyone else though since I've got a mix of crew/punter friends on site, I'm gonna pitch a really small tent in the staff area, as a refuge almost, with my main tent somewhere near the greenfields or stone circle. Aiming to arrive on Monday (working for OXFAM)...
Does this sound possible?
I'm not down with the the current rules and regs...
bouncer_the_dog
Well-Known Member
If I was going - which I'm not - but if I was I'd probably give up on the Pennards Hill (never made it into Dragon Field although I camped where LV was in '95 when it was a field full of travellers). It was RAMMED last year - more than ever!! On Wednesday a.m.!! I'd probably go for near the park, but even then it was quite stuffed. But I noticed that near the Peel Stage/Cinema it was hardly packed at all, and generally seemed more spacious. Maybe I imagined it. Usually the GCSE results field is under the Pylon opposite the Pyramid, while the prawn sandwich brigade are on the Hill opposite.
Slight exaggeration there matey but it was probably getting on for half full. In fact there were a good few tent in there already when I had a wander round the site a full 2 weeks before the festival!
of course
but I remember wandering through on the Tuesday evening and thinking that the Camp Urban lot would have to be in pretty sharpish if they wanted to be there. sure enough we were in there on Wednesday lunchtime and heard wiskers' radio burbling on about the field being full and needing to redirect people. Everyone asking me directions on site on Wednesday morning seemed to be headed for Dragon!of course
Once a majority of the crew I was trying to save space for in Dragon had arrived last year I had a wander with my camera up towards Gate C & I was amazed to find it hadn't already been crossed off the maps of available camping spaces even though people were already trying to pitch their tents in the hedgerows by that stage. I waved my staff laminate & told the steward in charge that Dragon was already way past capacity and she informed me that several people had already told her a similar story but until she received official notification there was nothing she could do about advising people to look elsewhere.
newbie
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I'd like to see a lot less fencing, far fewer gates with stewards controlling acccess, much less elitism. I'd like the site to be as open as it once was, so that to get from A to B you could walk in a straight line, not be forced to trudge twice as far on the hard tracks. A site where everyone is mixed together, not a series of private parties from which the vast majority are excluded because they haven't got the right wristband or laminate.
As an objective, that seems worth aiming for.
How to achieve that when it's clear that the demand for the kudos of "secure" camping is so high, I've no idea.
Tort: no-one camps by Goose Hall; Janets used to be in a public area although almost everybody who ate there had a meal ticket... feeding crew (or providing them with exclusive showers) doesn't have to necessitate stewarded camping areas.
tbh I've not camped in crew camping at all when I've been entitled to, simply no need imho. As I believe newbie has pointed out before, the only people who really need to be camped backstage are stage crew themselves - by all means stall holders should be by their stalls but other than that, open it all up to everyone.
I bow to your superior knowledge mate. I just assumed that there were additional crew catering facilities elsewhere on the site, especially for those like security who are based outside the fence.
I'd quite like to crew camp. One year I'll work the festival (but I'll have to persuade Mrs Wife to do the same!) because I think it would be aninteresting thing to do, and the idea of a nice secure compound where I can not worry about my stuff is very appealing.
For a lot of people the whole campsite vibe is what it's about - camping with their mates, campfire singalongs, japes & buffoonery & the like, but as we go alone & not with anyone per se, the tent is just somewhere to crash out.
For a lot of people the whole campsite vibe is what it's about - camping with their mates, campfire singalongs, japes & buffoonery & the like, but as we go alone & not with anyone per se, the tent is just somewhere to crash out.
newbie
undisambiguated
the simplest way to achieve that peace of mind is to quit worrying. I can't find genuine stats, but according to Wikipedia, quoting the BBC, there were only 236 reported crimes last year, including 158 drugs offences. So less than a hundred real crimes (less than 20 per day) in amongst 177,000 people with maybe 70,000 tents between us. The chances anything will happen to your stuff in your tent is miniscule, whether you need a special wristband to get to it or not.
The demand for controlled access camping is undeniable- because of the perception of security, and because it somehow appears that the insiders are having a better party than anyone else. In actual fact they're probably moaning about work, but that's by the bye.
