Glastonbury 2007 pt1: the build-up

[Skim]

So, which of the Urbanites are planning to stay with Camp Urban?

Is there anyone else who is getting there on Thursday and is thinking about staying in Pennards? If I can't get into Camp Urban I may have to form a breakaway group

 

[gininteacups]

My money has finally gone out....so I can stop fretting that I have not got a ticket.....seems that despite getting a email confirmation I still did not believe I was going....

yer i know how you feel, been worrying for two weeks. even though nothing conceivably could have gone wrong. but its come out now, so sorted.

 

[DrRingDing]

Anybody know how the UK late booze law change will effect glasto serving times?

 

[newbie]

Err How? 135,000 tickets sold in less than 2 hours. No touts. Hardly a shambles. And the issue regarding people's money not being taken has proved to be Nat West Banks fault for not receiving funds on behalf of GFL. I know See/Aloud haven't exactly covered themselves in glory in the past but as far as I can tell their side of the operation has been pretty seamless this time around.

Is that confirmed then, that Natwest were at fault? Do you know why a bunch of bankers would refuse to take money, it seems such an uncharacteristic way for them to behave.

My brain isn't big enough to calculate the amount of money that has not gone into GFLs account for the last couple of weeks, clearly many millions. Which means that there has been a very significant loss of interest. Who pays for that- do Water Aid, Greenpeace will get less, since I can't imagine Natwest putting their hands in their pockets.

 

[Tort]

Is that confirmed then, that Natwest were at fault? Do you know why a bunch of bankers would refuse to take money, it seems such an uncharacteristic way for them to behave.

My brain isn't big enough to calculate the amount of money that has not gone into GFLs account for the last couple of weeks, clearly many millions. Which means that there has been a very significant loss of interest. Who pays for that- do Water Aid, Greenpeace will get less, since I can't imagine Natwest putting their hands in their pockets.

Purely going on comments by Infoman on TOS and I get the impression he went out on a limb on this one because the mods were getting such a caning over the issue. Seems the explanation was Nat West's uncertainty over potential money laundering issues which kinda rings true under the tightening of financial regulations over the last couple of years but I guess we'll never fully get to the bottom of the story. What does seem totally apparant is that it wasn't a See Tickets issue.

 

[newbie]

cheers Tort.

I'm going out on a limb here to suggest that as the sale of tickets for Glastonbury festival was frontpage news and the income stream predictable in advance, this 'money laundering' excuse is feeble at best.

The question 'who pays' for this is quite real, because 15 or so million quid held in current accounts for a couple of weeks benefits only the banks and must have cost the festival (and thus the charities) many, many thousands of pounds in interest (how much interest, anyone care to guess?).

Is the appropriate word 'incompetent' or 'scam'?

I rather hope there's some financial journalists digging away at this one.

 

[david dissadent]

135 000 tickets
*
£145
= £19 575 000
*
5.25% (base rate for interest)
=£1 076 625 pa interest earned
/
365 days a year
= £2949.65 per day interest

 

[newbie]

16 days, 47 grand.

thanks.

 

[Lazy Llama]

But not everyone of those tickets had the delay in payment being taken, at least some people on here had the money taken within a few days of the 1st.

Still, a fair few quid will have been lost.

I always thought it was illegal to take money for something over a month before you intended dispatching, but I'm probably wrong.

 

[belboid]

probly missed it earlier on the thread - but what's this 'money laundering' stuff? as it sounds like blatant bollocks

 

[Tort]

probly missed it earlier on the thread - but what's this 'money laundering' stuff? as it sounds like blatant bollocks

Under Financial Services Authority (FSA) regulations all organisations dealing in the financial industry have to have anti-money laundering procedures in place. Otherwise they risk enormous fines & sanctions. Anybody who works in the industry will confirm that we have compliance & beaurocracy red tape coming out of our ears & if anything triggers any suspiscion of dodgy dealing then it takes all manner of investigations & high level sign-offs to put things straight. So, it's blatantly feasible bolloks i.m.h.o.

 

[belboid]

well yes, thats all obvious, but how it relates to glastonbury tickets isnt.

 

[Tort]

well yes, thats all obvious, but how it relates to glastonbury tickets isnt.

Who knows what might trigger a block. You'd have to ask somebody who works for Nat West compliance.

 

[belboid]

i'd hope someone at glastocorps might ask that same question, and they'd then let the rest of us know (assuming it was down to money laundering questions - is that confirmed?)

 

[Tort]

As I said before, we'll probably never know. I can't imagine anybody at GFL making any further statements now that everybody's money has been debitted. If they want to take matters further with their bank over the lost interest then obviously that is entirely up to them & their legal/financial advisors.

 

[Riff]

Well, my moolah finally went out on Friday (the 13th).

Now we have to endure the delights of SMS "delivering" our tickets.

 

[William of Walworth]

WoW, I have managed to sort out my Glasto timetable thanks to my mum, who will take Skimboy off my hands for as long as I need – but I still won't be getting there for Wednesday. I'll be driving up from Devon at the crack of dawn on Thursday, to arrive on site early morning, which means I'll be free for some pear 'n' pot action by lunchtime

Nice one

 

[Sunray]

Under Financial Services Authority (FSA) regulations all organisations dealing in the financial industry have to have anti-money laundering procedures in place. Otherwise they risk enormous fines & sanctions. Anybody who works in the industry will confirm that we have compliance & beaurocracy red tape coming out of our ears & if anything triggers any suspiscion of dodgy dealing then it takes all manner of investigations & high level sign-offs to put things straight. So, it's blatantly feasible bolloks i.m.h.o.

Yeah, right. I had dealings with the FSA. Those guys get informed of just about every financial transaction made in the UK, including Mortgages.

How do they catch the bad guys? Super clever software that watches for suspicious patterns and alerts the Authorities?

Nope.

Someone rings them up and tells them.

 

[William of Walworth]

But not everyone of those tickets had the delay in payment being taken, at least some people on here had the money taken within a few days of the 1st.

Very few, surely?

 

[Skim]

On Gorge.org (apologies if this has been posted already):

2007 Confirmations

New this week

Aqualung - Matt told a reader they are playing
Bat for Lashes - playing on Sunday according to MySpace
Benjamin and the Sirens - tell me they're at Avalon Cafe, 5pm Thursday
The Big - will be at Croissant Neuf
The Cat Empire - manager says they are playing
Circulus - down for Sunday
Dylan Project - playing on Friday
Fat Freddy's Drop - down twice on their MySpace
Newton Faulkner - MySpace says the Acoustic stage on Friday
Foreign Beggars - returning to the Roots stage
Jim Bob - playing on Friday according to his manager
Julie Fowlis - down for the 23rd on her website
Charlotte Hatherley - has confirmed herself
Hayley Hutchinson - says she's playing on her website
Hothouse Flowers - performing on Friday
Jack L - will perform on Friday
The Light Years - according to their website
Modest Mouse - Johnny Marr's website shows them playing on Friday
Mr Scruff - his MySpace says he's playing on Friday
Ned's Atomic Dustbin - playing Leftfield on Friday
The Pipettes - I'm told they are playing the Pyramid early on Sunday
Pronghorn - confirmed on their website
Fionn Regan - on the new Park Stage
DJ Sasha - down for Saturday on his website
Seasick Steve - on Friday, according to his MySpace
Shitmat - down for Saturday on MySpace
Shuffle - playing Lost Vagueness
Show of Hands - confirmed for Friday in their newsletter
Soweto Kinch - on Friday
Trentemoller - confirmed in DJ Magazine
Tunng - playing the Avalon Stage
Robin and Bina Williamson - will be on the Avalon Stage

Existing confirmations

Adjágas - opening the main stage according to Q
AIM Live - playing the Jazzworld stage
Lily Allen - told BBC 6 Music
Arcade Fire - confirmed on a fan site
Arctic Monkeys - playing the Pyramid according to Emily Eavis
Babyshambles - confirmed on their MySpace site
Corinne Bailey Rae - self-confirmed for Sunday
Shirley Bassey - according to the Western Daily Press
The Bees - told a reader they are playing JazzWorld
Beirut - down for Sunday on MySpace
Bellowhead - are down for Sunday
Bjork - playing the Other Stage according to Emily Eavis
Bloc Party - mentioned on 6Music
Bootleg Beatles - announced they are playing Acoustic Stage on Sunday
Billy Bragg - playing Leftfield at 8pm on Sunday, with an Avalon Stage book reading at 4pm
Brighteyes - self-confirmed on Radio 1
Broken Family Band - confirmed on MySpace for Saturday
Ben Calvert - on MySpace
Chas and Dave - according to a chap at the BBC who heard from the Eavises
Chemical Brothers - apparently Tom Rowlands told his neighbour they will perform
Chumbawumba - Friday on Avalon Stage according to their website
Decision for the Masses 1 - on MySpace
The Destroyers - on MySpace
Pete Doherty - playing a solo acoustic set for ?100, say the papers
Dan Donelly - on MySpace
Steve Earle - his website says he's playing on Saturday
Eat Static - playing twice according to their website
Editors - said on Zane Lowe's show they are playing before Iggy Pop
Enter Shikari - say on MySpace that they are playing East Dance Tent on Sunday
John Fogerty - mentioned for the Jazz stage by Michael Eavis on Radio 5
Four Tet - told a reader they are playing
Fuck Me USA - confirmed on their website
Get Cape Wear Cape Fly - self-confirmed on Radio 1
Gojo Music - say they are playing in Green Futures area
Good Shoes - their blog said they are performing on Friday
Guillemots - told a reader they will be playing
Gusgus - website shows Friday at Jazzworld and Saturday at a dance stage
Halagoogoo - confirmed on their website
Edwina Hayes - down for Acoustic Stage on Sunday
Micah P Hinson - self-confirmed at a gig recently
Holy Fuck - say they are playing John Peel stage
The Horrors - told a reader they are playing
Hot Chip - told BBC 6 Music
Hummingbird - on MySpace
Iration Steppas - playing a DJ set, says the website
Keith James - playing the Acoustic stage on Sunday
Kaiser Chiefs - confirmed on BBC Radio
Kasabian - according to several people who heard them say it at a Manchester gig
The Killers - headlining the main stage according to Q
Klaxons - said on Radio 1 they are in the Dance area on Friday
The Kooks - mentioned by Michael Eavis in an interview with Virtual Festivals
Seth Lakeman - confirmed in interview
Long Range - Phil Hartnoll's band are playing
Los Albertos - self-confirmed but date and stage to be announced
Luminescent Orchestrii - self-confirmed on their website
Manic Street Preachers - playing on Sunday according to their website
MIDIval PunditZ - playing JazzWorld on Friday at 1pm
The Maccabees - playing the John Peel stage
Madness - according to Virtual Festivals
Scott Matthews - playing John Peel tent on Sunday according to a reader
Mika - confirmed to Jo Whiley
Mr Bojangles' Moustache - on MySpace
Muddy Shovels - I'm told they are playing
Mumm-Ra - told a reader they will play John Peel tent on Friday
The Noisettes - on MySpace, down for John Peel stage
Pendulum - headlining in the Dance area
The Pigeon Detectives - told a reader they are playing
The Rakes - told XFM they are playing
Remedy - on MySpace
Damien Rice - 6Music has him headlining the Acoustic stage
Smokey Robinson - according to the Western Daily Press
The Saw Doctors - playing Saturday on the Avalon Stage
Soil and Pimp Sessions - are down for Saturday
Stiff Kittens - playing Greenpeace Tango tent on Saturday
The Stooges - according to Q
The Storys - play the Acoustic Stage on Saturday
Subgiant - returning to Glasto to play at the West Dance stage
Jamie T - told Edith Bowman's show he will be at Glastonbury
Martha Tilston - will play at the Acoustic stage on Friday at 3pm
The View - confirmed on Jo Whiley's radio show
Amy Wadge - on MySpace
Rufus Wainwright - confirmed by his record label
Warlords of Pez - on MySpace
Waterboys - playing all 3 days on 3 different stages
Paul Weller - the rumours are finally confirmed!
The Who - now confirmed by Michael Eavis
The Wurzels - confirmed in the Western Daily Press
The X Presidents - on MySpace
DJ Yoda - says he's there on Saturday on his MySpace

 

[William of Walworth]

A minor but significant addition.

Significant to a specialist minority of veteran undercrust types anyway

The Tofu Love Frogs have reformed, and as well as going to Endorse It in August, will be playing the Lost Vagueness Ballroom at Glasto. At least once

Source : Goff, the drummer, posting elsewhere ...

 

[William of Walworth]

Loads of cool shit on that list, thanks Skim

 

[Tort]

A few to add to that list after a little mooching around t'internet this evening.

Tinariwen - confirmed on website
Oojami - ditto
Trabant - according to MySpace page

 

[pagan]

'my bag of important things'

Shit man, sorry to hear that

 

[pagan]

Tinariwen -

wicked

 

[pagan]

All out of date the above -- all sorted now -- Glasto ticket wise AND getting my bits and bobs back wise, rest in Commmunity thread

Whay hay!! That'll teach me to read to the end of the thread before posting

 

[pagan]

Nat West's uncertainty over potential money laundering issues

Yeah cos like, Glasto's fuckin teeming with money launderers innit. Scourge of th efestie I reckon.......

 

[pengaleng]

I'm confused...

I need to know what type of ID the peeps will need or not need, all it says on the website is this...

What ID do I need to get into the Festival?

• All tickets will be personalised with a full colour facial image submitted during the registration process and checks will be made at the gates. If you are clearly not the person whose face is printed on the ticket you will be denied entry. Please refer to the Registration Site for more information on facial images.

• Every ticket holder will be required to present their personalised ticket.

• Children aged 12 and under, and “Child” ticket holders, must be accompanied by the adult ticket holder.

does this mean that if you look like your pic you wont be asked for ID or is it a requirement to have ID as standard?

I don't fucking have any do I all I've got is an NHS card and my birth certificate and a bank statement...

 

[pagan]

Yeah, right. I had dealings with the FSA.

I always had my suspicions about you Sunray

 

[pagan]

I don't fucking have any do I all I've got is an NHS card and my birth certificate and a bank statement...

They'll make you stand in the corner of the car park by the main gate with a big sign around your neck saying WARNING - UNVERIFIED IDENTITY as an example to anybody thinking of not bringing combined biometric/photo id.