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Puddy_Tat said:
no. has been the case since (i think) some time round the mid 90s.

Maximum on a car licence is now 3.5 ton (or possibly metric tons)

likewise driving minibuses (9 to 16 seats)

if you passed your car test before X date (i can't remember off hand what that date was but it was after I did my car test in about 1991) then you got what's now C1 (goods vehicle up to 7.5 tons) and D1 (up to 16 seater mini bus but not for hire and reward) as part of the package.

Also possibly some categories involving trailers and / or mopeds but I've never really had to give them a lot of thought.

You also lose these entitlements when you turn 70 unless you do the enhanced medical.
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I think it was just before I finally passed my driving test in June 1997, had I not failed in May 1997, I'd be rocking about in a 7.5 tonner.
 
Badgers said:
The petrol (not food shortage :hmm:) panic buying is getting a bit mental round here. The police are moving cars on due to the roads getting blocked.

As a result my staff are calling their family/friends telling them to fill up their cars. No doubt said friends/family are also calling others 🙄
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spitfire said:
This morning at 10.30 I saw the Premium unleaded was OOS (Shell Bethnal Green), thought about the truck drivers and all the other stuff and filled up just in case. Saw the headlines later and felt simultaneously smug and embarrassed.

I do have a tank full of petrol now though so there is that.

#same

(was originally on brexit thread but that's doing its usual weird thing so am bailing out to this one while it is still based in reality).
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I feel bad now.

But does it count as panic buying if you bought before everyone started losing their fucking minds?
 
So what are the actual mechanics of this crisis? Is it simply that food isn't getting delivered to supermarkets? or is it also that it isn't being picked and packed and shipped from the farms? And is it a UK issue, ie food is still coming from the EU?
 
I honestly don't know what to think. I shop at my local Waitrose, corner shop and Tesco Express and haven't really seen that much to get exercised over. For sure, my favourite type of sausages (Powter's Newmarkets) might not be on the shelves but it's not like we are facing anything remotely like starvation. Or the frightening empty shelves caused by hoarders at the start of lockdown. Also, a large part of my thinking goes along the lines of 'climate change means this is going to be the new normal so better get used to not having tomatoes in December. If someone's life saving medicines are being left at Dover, then yep, I am truly sympathetic but if someone can't buy reblochon cheese or a particular type of ham...then I think it's bloody good practice for a world where we actually have some global fairness and not the endless cheap fashions and processed foods which always come at a cost to someone. I will eat my words if we really are standing in 4 hour bread queues this winter but the simple truth is a global revolution and redistribution of resources is going to recquire a whole lot more austerity in the global developed north.
I have never had a supermarket delivery in my life cos I need to choose my own (cheap) shopping (and look for bargains and alternatives) and I don't want to pay delivery costs when I can get on my bike). Also, as usual, it will be those with expendable income, doing the freaking panic buying which will fuck those of us who have to live hand to mouth...who never have the vast array of choices which many are complaining about losing.

There is a lot to concern us...but starving over winter is not really likely, is it? Or do people truly see this as a possibiliity.
 
Lidl too have gaps , but what I've also noticed as I shop once a week , that the meats are very close to sell buy dates ,

Also there was queuing at my local petrol station tonight , They had backed up onto the road ,
 
campanula said:
I honestly don't know what to think. I shop at my local Waitrose, corner shop and Tesco Express and haven't really seen that much to get exercised over. For sure, my favourite type of sausages (Powter's Newmarkets) might not be on the shelves but it's not like we are facing anything remotely like starvation. Or the frightening empty shelves caused by hoarders at the start of lockdown. Also, a large part of my thinking goes along the lines of 'climate change means this is going to be the new normal so better get used to not having tomatoes in December. If someone's life saving medicines are being left at Dover, then yep, I am truly sympathetic but if someone can't buy reblochon cheese or a particular type of ham...then I think it's bloody good practice for a world where we actually have some global fairness and not the endless cheap fashions and processed foods which always come at a cost to someone. I will eat my words if we really are standing in 4 hour bread queues this winter but the simple truth is a global revolution and redistribution of resources is going to recquire a whole lot more austerity in the global developed north.
I have never had a supermarket delivery in my life cos I need to choose my own (cheap) shopping (and look for bargains and alternatives) and I don't want to pay delivery costs when I can get on my bike). Also, as usual, it will be those with expendable income, doing the freaking panic buying which will fuck those of us who have to live hand to mouth...who never have the vast array of choices which many are complaining about losing.

There is a lot to concern us...but starving over winter is not really likely, is it? Or do people truly see this as a possibiliity.
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I am not concerned about starving but there clearly are shortages. Also agree with with your principals on this.

Food shortages effecting schools, hospitals, food banks and such is unacceptable. A concern is medical supply chains going forward.

However I am disappointed with the Brexit vote/outcomes and more so with our corrupt, feckless, cruel #ToryScum government mismanagement of so many things. A lot of this shit was avoidable with some planning (Oven Ready???) but the idiots have been winging it and getting rich.
 
Clearly panic buying is taking place and shelves are being stacked with booze and water to hide the gaps. Whole line of porridge was missing in Aldi just now and there was about 50kg of the stuff yesterday. They had moved the boxes around to cover but I have never seen that particular line sell so fast. Petrol station was closed due to selling out and the road was jammed as people have headed out to look for petrol.
 
Just for balance, in my drive to the supermarket, the garage forecourt was about as busy as normal. Here in the supermarket the shelves are groaning with produce.
 
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