Far-right response to Southport Outrage And Ongoing Violent Disorder

[maomao]

who the fuck are these cunts.

Spoiler: Rotherham

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Interesting flag.

 

[xenon]

How is the discussion whether communities should be standing up against fash mobs going?

We have to wait for the public enquiry.

 

[cupid_stunt]

No, 1949.

Actually, no, I suspect people had learned a few lessons about opposing facsm then.

They had in Worthing, back in 1934, Oswald Mosley and William Joyce, yes Lord Haw-Haw himself, decided to hold a meeting of the British Union of Fascists, they got a good kicking, Mosley never came back to the town.

Battle of South Street - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Spymaster]

Interesting flag.

They seem a bit confused.

 

[brogdale]

Lad's not wrong.

 

[brogdale]

They seem a bit confused.

Maybe not confused at all; could be quite deliberate.

 

[Spymaster]

Maybe not confused at all; could be quite deliberate.

Or Pilch has vandalised their flag and they haven't noticed.

 

[DaveCinzano]

who the fuck are these cunts.

Spoiler: Rotherham

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A crowd of white men and boys expressing inchoate ideas violently because their togetherness gives them a sense of invulnerability and the dynamism of the scene gives them the excuse not to think about the consequences of their actions or the impact upon others.

 

[klang]

They seem a bit confused.

No idea if they are behind the idea of national anarchism but there is such a thing.

 

[Duncan2]

Have to wonder at the apparent absence of the police

 

[DaveCinzano]

Irish tabloid Sunday World on yesterday's Belfast lash-up between ‘Coolock Says No’ far-right activists from the Republic, and Northern Irish Loyalists:

Dublin protesters stand side-by-side with loyalist sectarian killer as mob united in hate

A convicted killer was at the front of a far-right hate protest yesterday which repeatedly accused immigrants of being killers.

www.sundayworld.com

From the photographer who took a lot of photos there:

 

[danny la rouge]

No idea if they are behind the idea of national anarchism but there is such a thing.

I would doubt it. They are probably just politically naive, using a vaguely remembered symbol from an incompletely understood past.

 

[cloudyday]

A crowd of white men and boys expressing inchoate ideas violently because their togetherness gives them a sense of invulnerability and the dynamism of the scene gives them the excuse not to think about the consequences of their actions or the impact upon others.

A perfect summation. The flag adds to the inchoateness.

 

[klang]

I would doubt it. They are probably just politically naive, using a vaguely remembered symbol from an incompletely understood past.

Wiuld be my guess too

 

[ska invita]

I’d really like to hear from some Urbanites with policing experience on this tbh. Rotherham looks terrifying at the moment. I have no idea how the situation would develop at the holiday inn if there were equal numbers of anti-fascist activists or communitarian self-defence groups involved, but the police look woefully overstretched.

Still not inclined to believe that a ruck between members of the public would help a robust emergency service response. Very perturbed to see that there doesn’t seem to be one.

Could ask this lot

 

[SpookyFrank]

A crowd of white men and boys expressing inchoate ideas violently because their togetherness gives them a sense of invulnerability and the dynamism of the scene gives them the excuse not to think about the consequences of their actions or the impact upon others.

You don't have to think that hard about what happens to people trapped inside a burning building. Clearly they are thinking about their impact on others and they are enjoying the sheer cruelty and malice of their actions.

 

[Wookey]

A crowd of white men and boys expressing inchoate ideas violently because their togetherness gives them a sense of invulnerability and the dynamism of the scene gives them the excuse not to think about the consequences of their actions or the impact upon others.

You managed that in one sentence, well done.

 

[klang]

They seem a bit confused.

No idea if they are behind the idea of national anarchism but there is such a thing.

Not to say na's aren't confused

 

[SpookyFrank]

BBC still calling them 'protestors' for fuck's sake.

Now pointing out that some of the 'anti-immmigration protestors' may not actually support arson and attempted murder. It's important to be balanced.

 

[AverageJoe]

Ask them then.

agricola A380

That's offside.

Don't out people for their jobs. Bad form.

 

[Dystopiary]

A crowd of white men and boys expressing inchoate ideas violently because their togetherness gives them a sense of invulnerability and the dynamism of the scene gives them the excuse not to think about the consequences of their actions or the impact upon others.

There are definitely women there, even in that photo. They might be in much smaller numbers, but there've been several women involved with these racist riots. (Mostly pretty young from what I've been seeing from pictures and videos online.)

 

[Bingoman]

Who is organising these protests, because the one in Rotherham looks like frightening

 

[Dystopiary]

A perfect summation. The flag adds to the inchoateness.

You managed that in one sentence, well done.

Not quite:

There are definitely women there, even in that photo. They might be in much smaller numbers, but there've been several women involved with these racist riots. (Mostly pretty young from what I've been seeing from pictures and videos online.)

 

[SpookyFrank]

That's offside.

Don't out people for their jobs. Bad form.

If those posters worked for an organisation which saw fit to deny me and my friends a private life by sending undercover filth to spy on us, I don't think they've got much right to complain.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Things seem to be kicking off in Middlesbrough, Sky has a reporter reporting live, on the fash mob attacking the police.

 

[Spymaster]

That's offside.

Don't out people for their jobs. Bad form.

Don't be daft. Both are very well known and open about their backgrounds.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Could ask this lot

That just reminds me of the scene in Royal Exchange Buildings in 2009 - a whole bunch of cops convinced they could fade into anonymity, not get dragged into answering awkward questions around the death of Ian Tomlinson. They were wrong then, they are wrong now.

 

[lengualo]

Edit: misread a comment.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Over and over again the BBC people are going out of their way to say how we mustn't discredit the whole idea of 'protesting against immigration' just because of these few isolated incidents.

Footage of all the dignified, respectful anti-immigration protests is still mysteriously absent.

 

[Spymaster]

Over and over again the BBC people are going out of their way to say how we mustn't discredit the whole idea of 'protesting against immigration' just because of these few isolated incidents.

Stangely enough, it's The Telegraph calling it how it is at the moment, referring to "far riot rioters" rather than the BBC's "protestors".