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Plastic Paddy
One day I'm undercover police, infiltrating the terrifying revolutionary faction that is U75; and the next, I've never been on a demo.
Make your mind up, Ska!
Far-right response to Southport Outrage And Ongoing Violent Disorder
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One day I'm undercover police, infiltrating the terrifying revolutionary faction that is U75; and the next, I've never been on a demo.
Make your mind up, Ska!
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Undercover cops don't always tell the truth, of course. Some even deny being undercover cops.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
skyscraper101
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Man admits looting bath bombs from Lush during Hull riot
John Honey’s sentencing was delayed on Tuesday after claims he asked a prison probation officer ‘if he wanted his autograph’
www.independent.co.uk
Girl, 13, pleads guilty to violent disorder in Aldershot unrest
Dozens of people are appearing in courts across England - including a man who looted Lush and Shoezone during the riots.
www.bbc.co.uk
Tara John
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Although to further complicate matters, coppers (and in particular, undercover coppers) hate Lush
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
they played an anti-poll tax benefit at the haringey irish centre back in '90
I wonder if the 13-year-old girl in Aldershot was one of the ones that bald dude was trying to rile up.
(Lush are brilliant. It's a shame Miki is a TERF, or at least TERF-sympathetic, because her book is worth reading if you're a fan, although it is pretty grim in parts. She was sexually abused by her Nazi grandma. It certainly explains the lyrics of Kiss Chase. The soap shop can fuck off though, the smell makes me sick.)
(Lush are brilliant. It's a shame Miki is a TERF, or at least TERF-sympathetic, because her book is worth reading if you're a fan, although it is pretty grim in parts. She was sexually abused by her Nazi grandma. It certainly explains the lyrics of Kiss Chase. The soap shop can fuck off though, the smell makes me sick.)
Voley
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And an ANL benefit with Rage Against The Machine at Brixton Academy.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
well no one's perfect
Voley
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It was ace. Senser were good round then too. I did go to bar during Billy Bragg mind. Not the first time I've had to do that.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Do you?
PTK
Paul Kegan
Is not the best way to stamp out wheelie-bin related crime to be tough on the tools of that crime: wheelie bins?
What's wrong with old fashioned metal dustbins? They are fire-proof, and it would be more difficult to put a cat in one.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
PTK
Paul Kegan
Not if the Moon is in its first phase, and there is an "r" in the month. Then it is Tuesday.
skyscraper101
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Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Gramsci
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I'm not keen on people being banged up but at least you are consistent.
I do disagree with what appears to be your view that lefties support all this.
My Lambeth labour council run by the Blairite now Starmerite side of party are in their official website celebrating whats now termed the Brixton Uprising of 81
Love Lambeth
Follow the poetry trail commemorating 1981's Brixton Uprising through public realm installations around the streets of ‘Poets’ Corner’.
love.lambeth.gov.uk
An educational venture so that young people can learn about rioting.
And my right wing Labour council has made sure "lefties" don't remain as Cllrs.
As much as I think 81 riot was justified. I do think things now in distant past get romanticised.
I was there. People lost property/ shops were looted affecting local businesses. It wasn't all heroic rebellion.
It's why I prefer term riot. They are messy outpourings of anger. An uprising makes it sound organised with specific targets to attack. As though it's morally sweetness and light.
I also disagree with somehow sanitising violent disorder. If what your getting at is something like this yes I agree
I'm not one for violence myself. But can understand why it can happen. And think at times it's justified. As now it's mainstream to see 81 as justified. And that isn't a "lefty" thing.
I think historically and in present it's necessary to look at underlying reasons for riots. And , as has been said here by others , the similarities and differences between riots and differing motivations for those involved. Rather than knee jerk reaction.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I'm not keen on people being banged up but at least you are consistent.
I do disagree with what appears to be your view that lefties support all this.
My Lambeth labour council run by the Blairite now Starmerite side of party are in their official website celebrating whats now termed the Brixton Uprising of 81
Love Lambeth
Follow the poetry trail commemorating 1981's Brixton Uprising through public realm installations around the streets of ‘Poets’ Corner’.
An educational venture so that young people can learn about rioting.
And my right wing Labour council has made sure "lefties" don't remain as Cllrs.
As much as I think 81 riot was justified. I do think things now in distant past get romanticised.
I was there. People lost property/ shops were looted affecting local businesses. It wasn't all heroic rebellion.
It's why I prefer term riot. They are messy outpourings of anger. An uprising makes it sound organised with specific targets to attack. As though it's morally sweetness and light.
I also disagree with somehow sanitising violent disorder. If what your getting at is something like this yes I agree
I'm not one for violence myself. But can understand why it can happen. And think at times it's justified. As now it's mainstream to see 81 as justified. And that isn't a "lefty" thing.
I think historically and in present it's necessary to look at underlying reasons for riots. And , as has been said here by others , the similarities and differences between riots and differing motivations for those involved. Rather than knee jerk reaction.
I agree with most of that but there's been no suggestion that all lefties support violence towards the police or anyone else.
No doubt some do. Many have said as much on these boards, and the ridiculous notion that Ska would have us believe that left violence towards coppers has always been in defence is utterly laughable.
Every group has it's dickheads, some more than others. My only insistence is that they're all treated the same in law.
tony.c
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Man admits looting bath bombs from Lush during Hull riot
John Honey’s sentencing was delayed on Tuesday after claims he asked a prison probation officer ‘if he wanted his autograph’
Girl, 13, pleads guilty to violent disorder in Aldershot unrest
Dozens of people are appearing in courts across England - including a man who looted Lush and Shoezone during the riots.www.bbc.co.uk
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Tara John
Sentencing adjourned until Friday after Honey asked prison officer if he wanted his autograph as he is now famous. Judge asked for witness statements to be taken.
He may have added to his potential sentence.
Boo Radley75
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There was a decent sized anti racism protest in my town centre at the weekend. All very peaceful except for this arsehole who showed up making Nazi salutes. For some reason, the police decided not to arrest him and just ushered him away toward the market square, the hang out place for abusive junkies drinking tramp juice.
Lurdan
old wave
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
One I'm aware of, Aldershot:
WEDS 14TH AUGUST, 5:30 P.M.
Rushmoor People First are calling a protest at Potter's International Hotel against housing migrants.
SHOW UP IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE ALDERSHOT MIGRANT COMMUNITY
SHOW THE FASCISTS THEY'RE NOT WELCOME IN ALDERSHOT
ETA: HNH article with a bit of background on some of the people involved in the Rushmoor/Aldershot demos:
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Nobody tell him about Aktion T4.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
comrade spurski
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That made me laugh way more than it should have
comrade spurski
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The average age of those convicted is 35 ffs.
Those who took, encouraged or helped kids join in should be treated like those who run county lines gangs. Horrific grooming behaviour.
As for some adults being caught up in it ... fuck em.
They chose to go on a demo to abuse immigrants (and anyone they thought was an immigrant).
Plenty of men committ domestic violence but I do not think they should be sympathised with because they are alcoholics, addicted to drugs or had a violent up bringing. Plenty of parents who abuse their kids had terrible experiences when they were young, or are addicts/alcoholics etc.
There is a difference between someone being severely impaired ie schizophrenic to someone who has been the victim of addiction or abuse. I have sympathy for them as children and if they abuse as children then they need to be cared for. But as adults they are responsible for their choices so if they chose to abuse others, I think fuck em is a reasonable response.
Those who took, encouraged or helped kids join in should be treated like those who run county lines gangs. Horrific grooming behaviour.
As for some adults being caught up in it ... fuck em.
They chose to go on a demo to abuse immigrants (and anyone they thought was an immigrant).
Plenty of men committ domestic violence but I do not think they should be sympathised with because they are alcoholics, addicted to drugs or had a violent up bringing. Plenty of parents who abuse their kids had terrible experiences when they were young, or are addicts/alcoholics etc.
There is a difference between someone being severely impaired ie schizophrenic to someone who has been the victim of addiction or abuse. I have sympathy for them as children and if they abuse as children then they need to be cared for. But as adults they are responsible for their choices so if they chose to abuse others, I think fuck em is a reasonable response.
Weller
So ermm ... You know ermm
Man admits looting bath bombs from Lush during Hull riot
John Honey’s sentencing was delayed on Tuesday after claims he asked a prison probation officer ‘if he wanted his autograph’
Girl, 13, pleads guilty to violent disorder in Aldershot unrest
Dozens of people are appearing in courts across England - including a man who looted Lush and Shoezone during the riots.www.bbc.co.uk
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Tara John
"Sentencing for rioter who looted Lush while wearing England top delayed over claims he offered officer his autograph
"Judge John Thackray KC, the Recorder of Hull, revealed he had received a letter from a member of staff at HMP Hull claiming they were conducting an assessment with Honey and that he had asked "if I wanted his autograph as he is famous and is all over social media".The letter claimed he was an "over-confident individual" who "presented with no remorse".
The case was adjourned until Friday for further statements to be taken.""
Sentencing for rioter who looted Lush while wearing England top delayed over claims he offered officer his autograph
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