England fans: the racism and the violence

[Badgers]

The view from CNN:

Why it seems like everyone hates the English abroad | CNN

Popular stereotypes suggest almost every English person channels their inner football hooligan while on vacation. Are they really that bad, or do people just love to hate the English?

edition.cnn.com

Nice

However, he says, they do have redeeming features.
"They tend to be the most friendly, humorous and charming -- and in my experience, they are also the least racist of the Europeans. "

 

[Ax^]

Dear Marcus , Jadon and Bukayo,

We are very sorry to hear about the recent racist abuse you received however it may be of consolation to you know that it’s not as bad in Wales and Scotland .

yours ,
Some urban75 posters

additional you should now how hard it is to be an English fan with the home nations ganging up on you

we all have crosses to bare

some other urban75 posters

 

[Spymaster]

Nice

He obviously hasn't met any Welsh people. They're the least racist Europeans.

 

[The39thStep]

additional you should now how hard it is to be an English fan with the home nations ganging up on you

we all have crosses to bare

some other urban75 posters

I’m sure they see that as gentle ribbing

 

[Ax^]

I’m sure they see that as gentle ribbing

quite sure the first thing half the fuckwits who got nicked for shit on Facebook over this turn to the police and remarked " it's just banter"

 

[editor]

Looks like the comic strip I drew back in the 90s didn't have the desired effect




(This strip was drawn for "United Colours of Football", a national anti-racist fanzine by the Football Supporters Association and the Campaign for Racial Equality.© Urban75 1996)

 

[Saul Goodman]

He obviously hasn't met any Welsh people. They're the least racist Europeans.

Get fucked, the Irish are the most hospitable.

 

[two sheds]

do like the Irish

 

[Dystopiary]

He obviously hasn't met any Welsh people. They're the least racist Europeans.

In fairness someone (I don't remember who and I'm not trawling back now to look tbh) said about Cardiff fans being well known as racist, and then they were asked by editor to provide evidence. Then nobody did provide evidence. So editor and maybe others was saying there is not that level of racism in Cardiff/Welsh fans - only after someone said there was. That's how I saw it.



Edited to correct tiredness- and heat-induced typos.

 

[editor]

In fairness someone (I don't remember who and I'm not trawling back now to look tbh) said about Cardiff fans being well known as racist, and then they were asked by editor to provide evidence. Then nobody did provide evidence. So editorand maybe others was saying there is not that level of racism in Cardiff/Weslh fans - only after someone said there was. That's how I saw it.

That's quite correct. It was a stupid, ignorant claim and one that was utterly irrelevant to the discussion about the recent racism related to the Euro 2020 internationals.

 

[Spymaster]

In fairness someone (I don't remember who and I'm not trawling back now to look tbh) said about Cardiff fans being well known as racist, and then they were asked by editor to provide evidence. Then nobody did provide evidence. So editor and maybe others was saying there is not that level of racism in Cardiff/Welsh fans - only after someone said there was. That's how I saw it.



Edited to correct tiredness- and heat-induced typos.

No, that’s wrong.

 

[two sheds]

do like the Irish

sorry if that was a bit racist by the way, I do like the Welsh and Scots too

 

[krtek a houby]

sorry if that was a bit racist by the way, I do like the Welsh and Scots too

But the Irish top of the league of loveliness.

 

[The39thStep]

quite sure the first thing half the fuckwits who got nicked for shit on Facebook over this turn to the police and remarked " it's just banter"

I think they said they may have posted whilst drunk . One bloke said he wasn’t racist as he was a quarter South African and had once been married to a German

 

[Ax^]

do we know the one who said he cannot be racist as he was a quarter south african

 

[little_legs]

Repeat after me: racism has no place in our society

 

[cyberpink]

This /\ is really stupid because on a strategic level it a) relies on other people - social media companies, employers, police etc - to act as you wish them to; b) it changes nothing - these life destroyed racists, assuming you succeed, are still racists just angrier and more embittered; c) none of this empowers anyone, there is no actual progress made, all it is is people reporting racism and hoping the authorities do something.

Sometimes the cops and employers and social media companies will act. But what will you do when they don't? What will you do when racists get together on their own social media - like Stormfront for example - on a racist-friendly ISP? Where racists work for other racists?

Where there are successes against racism it's through bringing people together, either on an occasional basis like the auld afa unity carnivals or demonstrations like the afa walk round the east end or longer term community based projects. I can't see your proposal making anything better for the victims of individual or systemic racism as nothing you say opposes racism or proposes an alternative - you've abandoned all the people who've spent a load of time online while isolated the last sixteen months and simply gone down a rabbit hole. It's feeble. It's disempowering. It's myopic, and politically appalling

"strategic"
fucks sake.. the Harrow Hooligans are a bit miffed LOL please - are the straw hats chafing your head? Did they teach you streetfighting at Harrow? Harrow. Hahaha now there's a story. What house were you in?

 

[krtek a houby]

"strategic"
fucks sake.. the Harrow Hooligans are a bit miffed LOL please - are the straw hats chafing your head? Did they teach you streetfighting at Harrow? Harrow. Hahaha now there's a story. What house were you in?

You seriously need to get over this ancient beef. It will devour you, if it hasn't already.

 

[cyberpink]

I think they said they may have posted whilst drunk . One bloke said he wasn’t racist as he was a quarter South African and had once been married to a German

I was once married to a Brazilian with Grrman DNA. I swear her dad was a nazi. I slipped his drink with a powder in his pale ale and skipped the country. It was a marriage of convenience that was never consummated.

 

[cyberpink]

You seriously need to get over this ancient beef. It will devour you, if it hasn't already.

wtf? beef? I'm virtualy a veggie. you guys are so paranoid

 

[cyberpink]

can we get back to the bit where "hooligan" is apparently offensive to Irish? I liked that bit

 

[krtek a houby]

wtf? beef? I'm virtualy a veggie. you guys are so paranoid

Just bored, really. There's been so many attempts to do this, and all are bound to fail.

 

[cyberpink]

One upon a time I was Vencedor and I used to troll William - it's been a while. I'm only here for the Olympics.

 

[cyberpink]

Just bored, really. There's been so many attempts to do this, and all are bound to fail.

this is the most fun you have had in ages. I'm already meh How is Will? He was a good guy. I hope he is well.

 

[krtek a houby]

One upon a time I was Vencedor and I used to troll William - it's been a while. I'm only here for the Olympics.

Doubt you'll last long this time round

 

[krtek a houby]

this is the most fun you have had in ages. I'm already meh How is Will? He was a good guy. I hope he is well.

You've been meh each and every incarnation, tbh

 

[cyberpink]

You've been meh each and every incarnation, tbh

i'll let the audience be the judge of jugador. I'm so not firky. Nope. No ninjas here. Have you been here for the past 20 years talking bullshit? wow (not WoW) there's a life out there.

 

[cyberpink]

You've been meh each and every incarnation, tbh

what incarnation do you think I am??

 

[krtek a houby]

i'll let the audience be the judge of jugador. I'm so not firky. Nope. No ninjas here. Have you been here for the past 20 years talking bullshit? wow (not WoW) there's a life out there.

See you've dropped the new agey touch feely shtick. It didn't suit.

 

[cyberpink]

Just bored, really. There's been so many attempts to do this, and all are bound to fail.

Bored, is sad. I am not here to be sad. I am the happy happy guy.