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Tbh all those stats show is that there are more racially motivated crimes in areas with more bame people in them. If the racists were evenly distributed across the country, that's what you'd expect to find.
Even weirder in my experience of a few countries as the UK is probably better than the rest in this regard. Long way to go obviously but do as well to consider what it is we got right and do more of it.
The reason it went like that is because of the people involved. You know how these threads are going to go by who posts on them and their usual motivations. As MO pointed out, this wasn’t about concern for racism at all.
I don't know anything about that, but if it's true, it was probably English fans who were responsible
Sure, the people involved on both sides of the argument. It's fucking dull, and it's probably an issue that could do with talking about without shrieking partisanship, one side of which you have some control over.
I once went on holiday in the next town on from Magaluf and it looked like the sort of place I wouldn't enjoy holidaying - but then I'm the same with any place packed with fun pubs, young people, fast food joints etc whether it's Magaluf or Cleethorpes Market Place. I imagine shitloads of people go to resorts like this in holiday and have a banging time without smashing the place up. Quite a few posts on this thread a bit close to "ugh, the working class at play/count my thoughts on one two three four five fingers"
There's Welsh racists, there's Scottish racists, there's racists every fucking where. But right now it's England fans under the spotlight for their recent behaviour at the Euros, and that includes the disgraceful booing of anthems, loudly booing their players taking the knee, and posting horrendous racist abuse on line.
You took issue with a point made about how there is a specific problem with England fans as opposed to Scotland/Wales fans but how there are still problems at club level in those other two countries, it's just that the specific dynamic of support for the national teams is different, a point originally made by a Scot. And somehow we ended up with assertions that the English are more racist than the Scottish/Welsh. Maybe if you hadn't jumped in defensively on my mention of Cardiff City in that context, it wouldn't have happened.
Explain to me again why you posted up some woefully inaccurate and derogatory claims about Cardiff City fans in a thread about England's well documented problems with racism and violence at the Euro 2020 tournament. In a forum about football internationals.
Not a shred of evidence for your claim that you ran from and now trying to turn the blame on others!
Yes.
Yes.
I understand why people are dismissive of the thread. That said, as someone from England, I don't think it's so controversial to suggest BME would probably experience more racism in England than either Wales or Scotland. More than anything, I think it stems from a stronger undercurrent in English national identity. Can I definitively prove that? Probably not.
I take it you've never been to a Celtic vs Rangers match.
Because they are not white or have a 'foreign' accent so in the small minds of racists they are not English.
You've got to hold and give
