England Cricket 2022

[littlebabyjesus]

I can't see how it's sustainable really. As someone said on comms, only two players in that side are capable of playing 'baz-ball' and thats Stokes and bairstow. Although Overton isn't doing his chances any harm.

It doesn't have to be everyone playing like this, though. Root, for instance, needs to just play exactly how he always has. Pope should take his cue from Root. Ditto the rest of the top order really.

But wow, YJB and also wow, JamieO. Some magnificent hitting from both of them. Not slogging, proper shots.

 

[planetgeli]

Not bad to make your debut, primarily as a bowler, and immediately hold the record for the highest ever 7th wicket partnership for your country.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Hopefully this means we'll not see his racist prick of a brother in an England shirt again.

 

[strung out]

Last time I looked , 91-6 , wow ! Jonny to the rescue again! & what a knock from Craig Overton , no one was expecting that !

Jamie, not Craig!

 

[marty21]

Jamie, not Craig!

Have edited ! Bloody twins ffs

 

[planetgeli]

Disagree with LBJ about Pope. If you're falling over twice in the same over you're doing it wrong. Crawley actually got the banana ball but that was almost wasted on him.

Ridiculous evening entertainment. Hope Overton gets 100.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Disagree with LBJ about Pope. If you're falling over twice in the same over you're doing it wrong. Crawley actually got the banana ball but that was almost wasted on him.

Ridiculous evening entertainment. Hope Overton gets 100.

Just watched the highlights. You're right. Reckon Lees' and Root's were pretty much unplayable, although the shot by Lees where he was dropped was horrible.

Different kind of innings from Bairstow. He was caressing it to the boundary. Overton looked fantastic.

 

[Petcha]

It doesn't have to be everyone playing like this, though. Root, for instance, needs to just play exactly how he always has. Pope should take his cue from Root. Ditto the rest of the top order really.

But wow, YJB and also wow, JamieO. Some magnificent hitting from both of them. Not slogging, proper shots.

The difference in the bowling may have been overlooked as well. I can't be arsed doing a hussain analysis but the seamers seem to have been pitching it up far more and even Leach throwing it up in the air a bit.

Can't wait to see how India deals with this.

 

[planetgeli]

Lovely piece on Boult by Jonathan Liew here.

Boult reborn again for New Zealand with red-ball magic in white-ball furnace | Jonathan Liew

New Zealand bowler Trent Boult delivered one of the greatest opening spells this ground has ever seen to clean up England’s top three, producing red-ball magic in a white-ball furnace

www.theguardian.com

 

[paulhackett]

…and in other news Root is now ranked No. 1

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This is absolute bollocks. YJB went down 2 places in the rankings to 41 despite scoring his third ton of the year in the last Test. Mitchell went up 1 to 16. Only 2 of the big 5 (and that doesn't include Labuschagne) are performing this calendar year.

 

[SpookyFrank]

97 and out for Overton. Gutted.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Gah. Felt likely to happen. Brilliant innings though.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Fully expecting Bairstow to just clobber everything at this point.

 

[Petcha]

Boult again. The smiling assassin. Apparently the nicest man you'll ever meet but once that ball's in his hand...

I hope Bairstow kicks on here. A lead of 50 please.

 

[SpookyFrank]

More T20 stuff here

 

[SpookyFrank]

Broad already has England's 3rd biggest score in this innings.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Is there anything more fun in test cricket than Stuart Broad in full "fuck it" mode, be it with bat or ball?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Bazball? I've been doing this for years.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

22 runs ahead

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Jack Leach apex predator

 

[Idaho]

NZ must be emotionally broken after pissing away another dominant position.

 

[Petcha]

Bazball? I've been doing this for years.

The thing with this style of play is that if it actually paid off long term, people would have been doing it a long time ago. It's not sustainable (I know I sound like Boycott here). I'm dying to see if they try it against India tho, given their side is packed with IPL players

I suspect they will so it should be fun.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

This is absolute bollocks. YJB went down 2 places in the rankings to 41 despite scoring his third ton of the year in the last Test. Mitchell went up 1 to 16. Only 2 of the big 5 (and that doesn't include Labuschagne) are performing this calendar year.

Yea, I’d like to see the details of the algorithm used. The ICC doesn’t seem to advertise it. I know that in high scoring matches, individual high scores are not weighted as much if it was a low scoring total. That may partially explain why Bairstow’s heroics are not reflected in the score. But yea, sounds sketchy.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Fuck me that was mean smack to the head. Right to the temple. Without a helmet that could have killed Conway.

 

[QueenOfGoths]

Catching up with the Gabriels at Glastonbury from earlier this afternoon.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Epic beer snake in the Western Terrace.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The thing with this style of play is that if it actually paid off long term, people would have been doing it a long time ago. It's not sustainable (I know I sound like Boycott here). I'm dying to see if they try it against India tho, given their side is packed with IPL players

I suspect they will so it should be fun.

It doesn't have to be everyone doing it. My comment was a bit tongue in cheek referring to Broad. But it's not new and it's been successful for individuals within teams before - most notably Virender Sehwag and Adam Gilchrist, showing that you can do it from anywhere in the batting order.

It hasn't always worked. Martin Guptill tried to come back to test cricket by playing as if it were a white ball game and failed. His technical fault of playing outside off with an angled bat still got found out with a swinging red ball and bowlers prepared to bowl on a length in the channel. But if you're good enough to do it, then why not?

Maybe what has changed right now is that players are specifically being given licence to go berserk and take risks if they feel that's their best chance of making the most runs possible, and given that licence regardless of the match situation.

Also, the game changes. What is and isn't possible gets redefined. All I would probably ask is that they be selective in when they choose to go berserk, but then again, I probably would have asked for that yesterday with the score at 50-4, so what do I know?

 

[kabbes]

I can imagine somebody having done some statistical analysis on it and finding that it is the best payoff strategy, even though it loses x% of the time. For example it is arguably better to win 70% and lose 30% than to draw 60%, win 20% and lose 20%.

 

[planetgeli]

I can imagine somebody having done some statistical analysis on it and finding that it is the best payoff strategy, even though it loses x% of the time. For example it is arguably better to win 70% and lose 30% than to draw 60%, win 20% and lose 20%.

Don't think so (and if they did, why now?). No team has ever played to such a strategy, only individuals. And, though we're all enjoying it now, there's a reason it hasn't been done in the past of nearly 2500 Tests. Wickets should be expensive commodities in Tests (because of the time a Test is given).

As someone else said, it only really suits Bairstow and Stokes. Middle order batsmen who don't have to habitually face the new ball. It's worked twice, yay, but I don't think it can continue with as much success as it's had this series. Luck runs out and we have been lucky.

1, 2 and 3 still don't work, which means a team still regularly handicapped by 31-3/55-5. When your luck runs out, 85 all out is still a big possibility.

It's been great fun though. Sing while we're winning.